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Started by Eltu Lefngap Makto, February 22, 2011, 01:47:37 AM

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Eltu Lefngap Makto

Carborundum set me very straight on the "because's", so I think I'll ask for the definitive word on time.   :)  Which of these is possible to say in Na'vi at this time and which isn't? (and how do you say them)

Oe kolä ne Kelutral ...

  • I went to Hometree for Saturday.
  • I went to Hometree on Saturday.
  • I went to Hometree during Saturday.
  • I went to Hometree from Saturday to Sunday.
  • I went to Hometree by Saturday.
  • I went to Hometree before Saturday.
  • I went to Hometree after Saturday.
  • I went to Hometree throughout Saturday.
  • I went to Hometree between Saturday and Sunday.
  • I'll be at Hometree into Saturday.
  • I went to Hometree around Saturday (ish).
  • I went to Hometree until Saturday.
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Hmm, well if I want to say on a certain day I'd use the format of your second sentence and the adposition (adp) -mì+ attached to the end of the day's name (i.e. Trrkivemì). So the sentence would look like this: Oe ne Kelutral kamä Trrkivemì Actually, now that I think about it, you might not even have to use -mì+. The word "on" could just be implied.

As for between, we have the word mìkam and that sentence would translate to Oe ne Kelutral kamä mìkam Trrkive sì Trr'awve, tho I'm not sure why one would say it like that. We have words like rewon, kxamtrr, kxamtrrmaw, sreton'ong, and txon to describe specific times of day. So one could say something like Oe ne Kelutral kamä sreton'ong Trrkiveyä. This format makes more sense to me.

The rest of your sentences don't make much sense to me in ENglish to be honest, I don't know that they'd be possible in Na'vi. The last one could make sense if you change it to "I will be at Hometree until Saturday" which would translate to Oel Kelutralit tayok vaykrr Trrkive.

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Eltu Lefngap Makto

OK, I tried to keep them uniform, but for clarity's sake, I should make them more intuitive:


1. I went to Florida for a year.Oe kamä ne Florita zìsìto.
2. I went to Hometree on Saturday.Oe ne Kelutral kamä Trrkive
3. I lived in Florida during 2009.-o too?
4. I lived in Florida from 2009 to 2010.ta & vay?
5. I must get to Hometree by Saturday (at the latest).sre?
6. I want to go to Hometree before Saturday.Oe new kivä ne Kelutral sre Trrkive
7. I want to go to Hometree after Saturday.Oe new kivä ne Kelutral maw Trrkive
8. I lived in Florida between 2009 and 2010.Oe kelku seri mì Florita mìkam 2009 sì 2010.
9. 'Avatar' began in 2009 and continued into 2010.-o?
10. I was born around 1980.asim?
11. I live on Hometree until Saturday (and then I will move).Oe kelku soli mì Helutralit vaykrr Trrkive (ulte tsakrr rayikx).
Is 2 synonymous with "at"?
3 might be synonymous with "within".
4 & 8 are close in English, but not identical.
5 & 6 are exceedingly close.
10 might just in "in approximately".

What do bare constructions mean, as in your Oe ne Kelutral kamä sreton'ong Trrkiveyä?  That looks to me like I to-Hometree went night-of-Saturday.  Is there an "on" implied?  Could a bare construction also imply an "at", as in Oe ne Kelutral kamä txon., which I would take to mean I went to Hometree at night.?
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I'd say 4 with ta / vay is correct up to this point.
We have this from the "since" news and the sentence: Trr'ongta Txon'ongvay po tolìran. "He walked from dawn until dusk."

Since yesterday, 5 would be a combination of li and sre or simply lisre+ before the time word. But remember that sre causes lenition, so lisre Srrkive "by Saturday"

I also think that the bare form of the word implies the English "on". It's the time at/on which one does the action. Same as the sentence oel hu Txewì trram na'rìngit tarmok... treats the time word trram. In English it's just "yesterday" but if you take it with its constituents trr aham, "previous day" you would also insert a "on".

Eltu Lefngap Makto

Irayo, your plumpness!  To try to put it all together


I went to Florida for a year.
I lived in Florida during 2009.
I traveled often in May.
Within a year, he had ridden a Great Leonopteryx.
'Avatar' began in 2009 and continued into 2010.
Oe kamä ne Florita zìsìto.
Oe kelku seri mì Florita 2009-o.
Oe serop Mayo pxìm.
Zìsìto, pol molakto torukit.
Uniltìrantokx sngolä'i mì 2009 ulte verar 2010-o?
I went to Hometree on Saturday.
I went to Hometree at noon.
In April, I rode an ikran.
Oe ne Kelutral kamä Trrkive
Oe ne Kelutral kama kxamtrr     
Eypxrìl oel molakto ikranit.
I lived in Florida from 2009 to 2010.Oe kalku sayo mì Florita 2009ta 2010vay.
I must go to Hometree by Saturday (at the latest).Oe zene ne Kelutral lisre Srrkive.
I want to go to Hometree before Saturday.Oe new kivä ne Kelutral sre Srrkive
I want to go to Hometree after Saturday.Oe new kivä ne Kelutral maw Trrkive
I lived in Florida between 2009 and 2010.Oe kelku seri mì Florita mìkam 2009 sì 2010.
I was born around 1980.Oe 'olongokx 1980mì asim?
I live on Hometree until Saturday (and then I will move).Oe kelku soli mì Helutralit vaykrr Trrkive (ulte tsakrr rayikx).
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