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Quote from: eejmensenikbenhet on April 05, 2011, 01:07:44 PM
Quote from: omängum fra'uti on April 05, 2011, 12:55:10 PM
Why does vrrtep have to have an etymology of words we know?  Not all words (Even multisyllabic words) are composed of other words.  Would you argue that "begin" was somehow rooted in "beg" because it starts with it?

I still like the idea that "vrrtep" means someone/something disconnected from Eywa and demon is just the best analogy to English (like how kame is translated as See), but I guess that's just me.
Yes, that's how I think about it as well but I like creating alternative theories :P
True...  Ooh, maybe there was someone named "Vrrtep" in their historical stories/songs, which had certain "evil" tendencies, so now people are referred to as being like him in analogy!

Quote from: Ìngkoruptusì on April 05, 2011, 02:45:17 PM
Good point. But, until further evidence from Frommer, I will hold to my original thought. Lord knows, there's ad hoc.
Don't hold your breath.  This feels like it would be more of a Cameron question than a Frommer question, so I doubt we'd get any answer from Frommer.
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Quote from: omängum fra'uti on April 05, 2011, 03:34:05 PM


Quote from: Ìngkoruptusì on April 05, 2011, 02:45:17 PM
Good point. But, until further evidence from Frommer, I will hold to my original thought. Lord knows, there's ad hoc.
Don't hold your breath.  This feels like it would be more of a Cameron question than a Frommer question, so I doubt we'd get any answer from Frommer.

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Quote from: omängum fra'uti on April 05, 2011, 12:55:10 PM
Why does vrrtep have to have an etymology of words we know?  Not all words (Even multisyllabic words) are composed of other words.  Would you argue that "begin" was somehow rooted in "beg" because it starts with it?

I still like the idea that "vrrtep" means someone/something disconnected from Eywa and demon is just the best analogy to English (like how kame is translated as See), but I guess that's just me.

Did Tsu`tey really call himself a vrrtep in that final scene. Far from being disconnected from Eywa, he had simply reached a point where he could no longer protect the people. Apparently in Na`vi culture, it is then right for the incoming Olo`eyktan to kill the one no longer capable of serving. Provided it wasn't some sort of a power grab, to me this seems like an honorable death, and far from being associated with vrrtep or any disconnection from Eywa.

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Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on April 07, 2011, 02:06:56 AM
]Did Tsu`tey really call himself a vrrtep in that final scene. Far from being disconnected from Eywa, he had simply reached a point where he could no longer protect the people. Apparently in Na`vi culture, it is then right for the incoming Olo`eyktan to kill the one no longer capable of serving. Provided it wasn't some sort of a power grab, to me this seems like an honorable death, and far from being associated with vrrtep or any disconnection from Eywa.
No he didn't call himself one...

But in the script, there was an extra scene where he had his queue cut off by Waynflete, and he could not bear to be unable to speak to ancestors, ride any mounts, or mate with a woman, and that was why he was no longer able to serve as olo'eyktan.  If a vrrtep is one not in touch with Eywa, without a queue he would be in that group.
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