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Skxawng

Note from the Management: These work sheets are outdated and inaccurate.

EDIT: The worksheets, so far:

Na'vi Grammar 1.1 - Plurality
Na'vi Grammar 1.2 - Gender, Laudative and Pejorative
Na'vi Grammar 1.3 - Topical, Genitave and Dative cases
Na'vi Grammar 1.4 - Ergative and Accusative suffixes
Na'vi Grammar 1.5 - Tense, Aspect, and Infixes
Na'vi Grammar 1.6 - Subjunctive, Reflexive, and Participle Verb infixes <-- WORK IN PROGRESS
Na'vi Grammar 1.7 - Lenition

More coming: Multiple Posessives and Compound sentences,

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NOTE: These worksheets are not the same as posted by 'na'vatar.'

So i've been pretty confused in the affix part of the na'vi language, and thinking back to my days of learning french and whatnot I realized that what helped me a lot was doing worksheets, and problem solving instead of simply trying to memorize the definitions and ideas.  I'm a 'learn by doing' kinda person i suppose.

Anyway this morning I decided, to help myself learn prepositions and plurality and all that stuff I figured I'd make a simple worksheet that started with a quick explanation of Plurality and Pronouns, followed by some fill-in-the-blank sentences, their answers, and a short gloss. My thought is that the process of making the sheets, and then of course doing the sheet would help me get a solid grip on the stuff I've been having trouble digesting.

Posting the results in IRC I had Taronyu look it over and make corrections (as he is a linguist) and the resulting worksheet is made:

http://zombat.roosteredge.com/navi/grammar/affixes1.1.pdf

Taronyu is currently working on a similar worksheet for Cases, and I'm currently working on a worksheet for Prepositions.  Ultimately we want to have a set of rescources to post in the beginner forums (sticked and locked topic)  first starting with Affixes. So tentatively the worksheets to be done are:

Affixes 1.1 - Possessives and Pronouns

Affixes 1.3.1 - Ergative/Accusative Cases
Affixes 1.3.2 - Topical, Genitave and Dative Cases
Affixes 1.3.3 - Ergative/accusative/topical/genitave/dative case fill-in-the-blanks.

Other worksheet topics
Gender
Lenition
Prepositions
Adjectives
Verbs
Questions

From there we could go into other parts of the language past Affixes. Additionally, more sheets with more fill-in-the-blanks on the same topics could and should be made.

Thoughts, comments, corrections appreciated.


"prrkxentrrkrr is a skill best saved for only the most cunning linguist"

Java

After we completed a worksheet would be be able to post our answers and see if we got them right?

Sarkath

This is such a wonderful idea!  Glad to see it put into action :)

When I actually did my homework in high school and college, believe it or not but I did learn. Haha

Payoang

You are my new hero, Z. Great work, you and Taronyu.

Things are moving along nicely in the direction of a tutorials/workbook section on the website (Javascript forms with graded results, or something...)

Java

Oh haha, I'm an idiot, the answers were hiding in the back. My bad.

Skxawng

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Quote from: Seabass on December 26, 2009, 03:19:46 PM
You are my new hero, Z. Great work, you and Taronyu.

:D

"Finished" writing another - This time on Topical, Genitive, and Dative cases. Taronyu is working on Ergative and Accusative, and we'll have a third sheet on the subject with fill-in-the-blanks with all the cases in one. (more difficult, explains when to use topical, when to use accusative, etc)

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DO NOT USE THIS YET. POSTED HERE SO IT COULD BE CORRECTED


HOWEVER, I'm pretty sure I've made a LOT of  mistakes. I'm no linguist.

Please let me know if my understanding is screwed up, or if I've made a mistake in my 'answers' or in my 'questions' or even if I forgot an apostrophe when writing na'vi.

Thanks all!


"prrkxentrrkrr is a skill best saved for only the most cunning linguist"

Motxokxen

your a kinesthetic learner, me too, what i usually do to learn this was is compose sentences and check to see if the sentence matches all the rules, but of course this method also requires external input.

edit* these worksheets are a good idea for repetition, we need the more knowledgeable ones to compose a few of these.

Sarkath

"Repitition, repitition."

Best way to learn anything.

shiaru

not exactly the best way to learn, I learn by example, if shown then I can copy the action. And i'm pretty sure there are a lot of people that prefer that learning system.
~Oe lu tanhì taronyu.~

Sarkath

Quote from: shiaru on December 26, 2009, 05:04:07 PM
not exactly the best way to learn, I learn by example, if shown then I can copy the action. And i'm pretty sure there are a lot of people that prefer that learning system.

But then how do you get better at it? Repeat it, right?

shiaru

you got me there, fine I'll give it to you that the best way to get better at something is to repeat the action many times. But the best way to learn something is up to the individual, how does that sound, better, no?
~Oe lu tanhì taronyu.~

Sarkath

Yeah that was gonna be the second part of my post but had a customer to deal with :P

omängum fra'uti

Skxawng, for the affix exercises, while it's not important for the exercise in general, it mightbe good to keep the examples grammatically correct.

Ngari lu skxawngyä

There's no actual noun there that is being.  I get that the important bit is more identifying the suffixes, but still best not to give grammatically bad examples.
Ftxey lu nga tokx ftxey lu nga tirea? Lu oe tìkeftxo.
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Skxawng

Quote from: omängum fra'uti on December 26, 2009, 06:43:15 PM
Skxawng, for the affix exercises, while it's not important for the exercise in general, it mightbe good to keep the examples grammatically correct.

Ngari lu skxawngyä

There's no actual noun there that is being.  I get that the important bit is more identifying the suffixes, but still best not to give grammatically bad examples.

my grammar is lacking, clearly. I want the examples and the sentences to be grammatically correct, and if they're not, please let me know so I can fix them and learn myself.  what has been given here is grammatically correct to the best of my knowledge, i'm no linguist, need yo help!


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Skxawng

Ok, first off, many thanks to Omängum fau'uti for his invaluable help with this. Dude, you rock.

http://zombat.roosteredge.com/navi/grammar/affixes1.3.2_cases.pdf

here is the new, updated, and now grammatically correct version of the previous worksheet.

The last worksheet I was flipping my -yä's and -ri's and generally throwing topic around whenever i possibly could.

This version is hopefully far better than that last one. But as usual, if you see some sort of error, or correction that needs to be made, LET ME KNOW



"prrkxentrrkrr is a skill best saved for only the most cunning linguist"

Eywayä mokri

Thanks for those worksheets Skxawng. :)

I think am gonna at them to the [for beginners] thread when they are finished.
°°We don't forget anyone, we only get used to their absence.°°

Skxawng

Quote from: Eywa mokriyä on December 27, 2009, 02:32:34 AM
Thanks for those worksheets Skxawng. :)

I think am gonna at them to the [for beginners] thread when they are finished.

your welcome :)

we're thinking of having both a document containing them all, and individualized worksheets for download. When they're all finished I'll definitely be posting them in the beginner area, and seabass will probably put them on the website too.


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Eywayä mokri

Quote from: Skxawng on December 27, 2009, 02:40:18 AM
Quote from: Eywa mokriyä on December 27, 2009, 02:32:34 AM
Thanks for those worksheets Skxawng. :)

I think am gonna at them to the [for beginners] thread when they are finished.

your welcome :)

we're thinking of having both a document containing them all, and individualized worksheets for download. When they're all finished I'll definitely be posting them in the beginner area, and seabass will probably put them on the website too.

Perfect!

Irayo, ma tsmukan.

By the way seabass should update the downloads on the website... ::)
°°We don't forget anyone, we only get used to their absence.°°

Taronyu

I made one for the case system. It's awesome, I think. I don't know where to upload it.

I've also made a larger, more all-inclusive dictionary than the Pocket guide. Still got some stuff to do on that, though.

Found a lot of cool stuff out, will post later. :) Skxawng, let me know where to send them.

Taronyu

Right guys! We have a new one. This is for the ergative cases, accusitive, and there's a bit of dative thrown in. Tell me what you think! (and where you think I messed up.)

http://zombat.roosteredge.com/navi/grammar/ergative1.3.1.pdf

;D