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Compound nouns—final decision!
« on: February 24, 2011, 11:13:58 pm »
Kaltxì ma smuktu,

So, after mulling it over a bit, Karyu Pawl says (with his apologies) that he's decided that ALL compound nouns will take case markers on the head noun.  After too many questions came up, like whether to stick a second case marker on the end of Utral ayMokriyä, or whether lì'fya leNa'vi "counts" as a proper, compound noun, he decided the best route was to simplify things.  So:

Ayvitrayä Ramunongit

Utralit ayMokriyä

lì'fyati leNa'vi

ayRamit aLusìng

eltuti lefngap


etc.

The case marker still goes on the name when a compound is a title-plus-name (e.g., Karyu Pawlit); and when a proper noun is only one word—well, that ought to be obvious (e.g., Kelutralit).

Apologies again for the confusion while that was getting sorted out.
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Re: Compound nouns—final decision!
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2011, 11:18:35 pm »
Irayo. I'm very happy of it :) I think it makes more sense than previous concept (ayRam aLusìngit). Irayo nìtxan!!! ;)
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Re: Compound nouns—final decision!
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 11:34:41 pm »
Irayo. I'm very happy of it :) I think it makes more sense than previous concept (ayRam aLusìngit). Irayo nìtxan!!! ;)

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Re: Compound nouns—final decision!
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 12:24:35 am »
Irayo. I'm very happy of it :) I think it makes more sense than previous concept (ayRam aLusìngit). Irayo nìtxan!!! ;)

Molteie!

Most definitely! I was hoping I wouldn't have to get used to putting case endings on adjectives lol. Fì'pxareri irayo nìtxan :)

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Re: Compound nouns—final decision!
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 04:08:45 am »
Txantsan...

Double case marker would be extremely confusing..
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Re: Compound nouns—final decision!
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 05:25:48 am »
Yeah, that's clever, I'm glad Pawl decided for simplicity. We don't really need a rule that only causes confusion.
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Re: Compound nouns—final decision!
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 02:09:03 pm »
Good to know, thanks :)

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Re: Compound nouns—final decision!
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 04:09:51 am »
Although in many cases, it should be fairly obvious which noun gets the case marker, is there any formal definition of 'head noun'?

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Re: Compound nouns—final decision!
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 04:20:50 am »
Although in many cases, it should be fairly obvious which noun gets the case marker, is there any formal definition of 'head noun'?

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