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Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« on: August 15, 2011, 03:32:34 pm »
Ma frapo,

I asked Karyu Pawl about a confirmation on kurakx since I wanted to use it in a translation and realised that we still don’t know about its transitivity. It’s transitive, infixes 1,2 – no real surprise there … some of you might find the line from Eytukan, that didn’t make it into the movie more interesting though.


Quote from: K. Pawl, 15 Aug
The way you’re using kurakx is fine. Yes, it’s transitive. The infix positions are 1,2. It appeared in a line I translated for Eytukan:

You speak truth. We must understand these Sky People if we are to drive them out.
Nìngay plltxe nga. Ayoengal fte Faysawtutet kivurakx, zene nì’awve ayfot tslivam.
On a follow-up on this sentence, he commented:

Quote from: K. Pawl, 15 Aug
If I were translating it today I might say ayoengìri instead of ayoengal, but I think ayoengal is still OK.
Btw, my translated bit was kurakx ayukit sì sìngäzìkit.


Also, after the little radio play he wrote:
Quote from: K. Pawl, 10 Aug
Sìlpey oe, ’awa trr tsìyevun oe ne Toitsyìlantì [??--how have you been adapting Deutschland into Na’vi?] ziva’u fte ultxa sivi ayngahu nìwotx.
and liked our suggestion of Toitslan (TO.i.tslan) for Germany.

Quote from: K. Pawl, 15 Aug
I like Toitslan. Perfect. Please continue to use it.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2011, 03:35:15 pm by Plumps »

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Re: Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 04:36:28 pm »
Irayo nìtxan. :)
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Re: Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 04:46:44 pm »
Quote from: K. Pawl, 15 Aug
If I were translating it today I might say ayoengìri instead of ayoengal, but I think ayoengal is still OK.

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Re: Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 01:48:05 am »


Also, after the little radio play he wrote:
Quote from: K. Pawl, 10 Aug
Sìlpey oe, ’awa trr tsìyevun oe ne Toitsyìlantì [??--how have you been adapting Deutschland into Na’vi?] ziva’u fte ultxa sivi ayngahu nìwotx.
and liked our suggestion of Toitslan (TO.i.tslan) for Germany.

Quote from: K. Pawl, 15 Aug
I like Toitslan. Perfect. Please continue to use it.

I thought it was Toìtslan with Ì...???


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Re: Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 03:54:27 am »


Also, after the little radio play he wrote:
Quote from: K. Pawl, 10 Aug
Sìlpey oe, ’awa trr tsìyevun oe ne Toitsyìlantì [??--how have you been adapting Deutschland into Na’vi?] ziva’u fte ultxa sivi ayngahu nìwotx.
and liked our suggestion of Toitslan (TO.i.tslan) for Germany.

Quote from: K. Pawl, 15 Aug
I like Toitslan. Perfect. Please continue to use it.

I thought it was Toìtslan with Ì...???

Nìngay ke omum.  I wwould be happy either way.  In fact, I would even be comforable if ì and i were interchangeable for that word.

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Re: Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 04:05:14 am »


Also, after the little radio play he wrote:
Quote from: K. Pawl, 10 Aug
Sìlpey oe, ’awa trr tsìyevun oe ne Toitsyìlantì [??--how have you been adapting Deutschland into Na’vi?] ziva’u fte ultxa sivi ayngahu nìwotx.
and liked our suggestion of Toitslan (TO.i.tslan) for Germany.

Quote from: K. Pawl, 15 Aug
I like Toitslan. Perfect. Please continue to use it.

I thought it was Toìtslan with Ì...???

Nìngay ke omum.  I wwould be happy either way.  In fact, I would even be comforable if ì and i were interchangeable for that word.



Hm, fmawn a eltur tìtxen si :)

Also, I think the regular i would be better for ease of pronunciation.

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Re: Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 05:34:01 am »
Quote from: K. Pawl, 15 Aug
If I were translating it today I might say ayoengìri instead of ayoengal, but I think ayoengal is still OK.

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I have a feeling this tells you something that went right over my head. Does it have something to do with how the do-er is carried over to the next clause?

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Re: Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 07:25:12 am »
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Re: Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 09:09:54 am »


Also, after the little radio play he wrote:
Quote from: K. Pawl, 10 Aug
Sìlpey oe, ’awa trr tsìyevun oe ne Toitsyìlantì [??--how have you been adapting Deutschland into Na’vi?] ziva’u fte ultxa sivi ayngahu nìwotx.
and liked our suggestion of Toitslan (TO.i.tslan) for Germany.

Quote from: K. Pawl, 15 Aug
I like Toitslan. Perfect. Please continue to use it.

I thought it was Toìtslan with Ì...???

I think, we did use the form with ì within the Community in the beginning, but since this blog post I always used toitsye rather than *toìtsye

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Re: Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 09:50:36 am »
Great ma Plumps, thank you. :D

I think, we did use the form with ì within the Community in the beginning, but since this blog post I always used toitsye rather than *toìtsye
Good to know as well! :o

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Re: Confirmation on »kurakx«, Eytukan line and Toitslan
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 03:35:25 pm »
I have a feeling this tells you something that went right over my head. Does it have something to do with how the do-er is carried over to the next clause?

Close.  Not the do-er, the topical.
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