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'ekxinum clarified by Tsm. Pawl
« on: February 28, 2013, 04:45:13 pm »
Paul, in an email to me on clarifying definition of 'ekxinum:

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The trouble here is with English. Let's look at a parallel example:

somwew

Now as you know, som is hot, wew is cold. So somwew literally means hot-cold. So when we say somwewpe, we're asking, "What's the hot-cold?" In other words, what's the degree of hotness or coldness? Of course English has a nice word for that: temperature. So that's the idiomatic translation for somwew.

'Ekxinum is exactly parallel. 'Ekxin is tight, um is loose. So 'ekxinum literally means tight-loose. When we say 'ekxinumpe, we're asking, "What's the tight-loose?" In other words, what's the degree of tightness or looseness? Trouble is, English doesn't have a nice word for that which would correspond to temperature. (At least I can't think of one.)

In any event, I guess a clearer translation of 'ekxinum would be "degree of tightness or looseness." In other words, where is it on the tight-loose scale?
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Adjusting in the dictionary accordingly.

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Re: 'ekxinum clarified by Tsm. Pawl
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 04:39:23 am »
Well, there is more words created this way (ngimpup, tsawlhì'....). But 'ekxinum is probably the first one which does not have exact English counterpart.
Anyway, thanks for asking for comment.
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Re: 'ekxinum clarified by Tsm. Pawl
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 08:03:12 am »
Also last night, Paul legalized ikranay (since we have -nay now) and asked the ASG word lonataya (medusa) be removed. He also posted the next Naviteri entry as we see.  :D


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Re: 'ekxinum clarified by Tsm. Pawl
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 02:03:20 pm »
So lonataya is now wrong? Wiya, I used it in my story. Fortunately, we still have fpxafaw :)
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Re: 'ekxinum clarified by Tsm. Pawl
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 09:40:33 pm »
So lonataya is now wrong? Wiya, I used it in my story. Fortunately, we still have fpxafaw :)
Probably the existence of fpxafaw is a main reason why *lonataya was removed...
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Re: 'ekxinum clarified by Tsm. Pawl
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 09:42:02 pm »
So lonataya is now wrong? Wiya, I used it in my story. Fortunately, we still have fpxafaw :)
Probably the existence of fpxafaw is a main reason why *lonataya was removed...

What explains why pxel and na coexist? *shrug*

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Re: 'ekxinum clarified by Tsm. Pawl
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 11:30:44 pm »
When we say 'ekxinumpe, we're asking, "What's the tight-loose?" In other words, what's the degree of tightness or looseness? Trouble is, English doesn't have a nice word for that which would correspond to temperature. (At least I can't think of one.)

Way late on this but I figured this was a good place to post this. Engineering has a useful term for the word that you're looking for: "clearance". We can likely directly translate 'ekxinum very nicely as "clearance" in English.

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Re: 'ekxinum clarified by Tsm. Pawl
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2013, 06:26:00 am »
Hmmm. Good one. You should bounce that off tsm. Pawl.

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Re: 'ekxinum clarified by Tsm. Pawl
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2013, 03:53:22 pm »
Hmmm. Good one. You should bounce that off tsm. Pawl.


Done. Will post back when I know more.

 

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