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ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« on: January 12, 2013, 10:01:01 am »
ftärpa, n., left side, (c.w. ftär/pa'o)
skiempa, n., right side, (c.w. skiem/pa'o)

This is an old addition from PF (last April) that got missed.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 10:44:22 am by Toruk Makto »

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Re: ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2013, 10:07:54 am »
It should be with an /m/ in "right side," skiempa.
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Re: ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2013, 10:14:14 am »
Ma mesmukan, Kameyul a Kepekftu mengati kameie.

ftärpa, n., left side, (c.w. ftär/pa'o)
skienpa, n., right side, (c.w. skien/pa'o)

This is an old addition from PF (last April) that got missed.


Thanks for warning us these interesting entries. However, they are not yet entered on dict-navi.com.


It should be with a /m/ in "right side," skiempa.

I think it's too late for editing this word, because skienpa is now an official Na'vi word. Just too bad! Although we can legalize -np- or make an exception. But it's Karyu Pawl who created that word.

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« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 10:38:13 am by Kameyu a Kepekmì »
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Re: ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2013, 10:34:35 am »
Thanks ma Markì for letting us know …

would be great to know how to talk about directions ;D :P but better than nothing ;) two new words *yeah*

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Re: ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2013, 10:40:44 am »
The original email from Paul regarding ftärpa...


OK, regarding mìn and kìm:

Mìn is an intransitive verb meaning 'turn' or 'rotate.' So:

Mìn ne ftärpa.
'Turn to the left.'

Kunsìpìri txana tìmeyp lu tsyal a mìn.
'The gunship's main weakness is the rotor system.'

Kìm is a transitive verb meaning 'spin'--i.e. spin something:

Pol rumit kolìm.
'He spun the ball.'

As you see, kìm is roughly equivalent to the causative of mìn, meykìn: to spin something is to make the thing turn.

Hope that helps! Let me know if you have any more questions.



EDIT:  Correcting skiempa.   I need coffee.

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Re: ftärpa and skienpa added to dict.
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2013, 10:41:29 am »
I think it's too late for editing this word, because skienpa is now an official Na'vi word. Just too bad! Although we can legalize -np- or make an exception. But it's Karyu Pawl who created that word.

No, Karyu Pawl blessed skiempa, and Markì has introduced a typo.

Email from Pawl —
Quote from: Karyu Pawl
Of course, mìn ne skiempa is well formed too. (Stress on the 1st syllable: SKI-em-pa.)

Ftärpa and skiempa should be in the dictionary. They aren't in my spreadsheet, so I'll add them there too.
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Re: ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2013, 10:47:26 am »
Silly typo fixed...   :-[

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Re: ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2013, 11:03:49 am »
I think it's too late for editing this word, because skienpa is now an official Na'vi word. Just too bad! Although we can legalize -np- or make an exception. But it's Karyu Pawl who created that word.

No, Karyu Pawl blessed skiempa, and Markì has introduced a typo.
Ok.

Also, add them on dict-navi.com!
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Re: ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2013, 11:08:41 am »
For background...

This all came about because I've been tracking down canon examples for every word I can.  When I noticed the example with mìn in the community dictionary I got freaked out, because among other things, it had the word ftärpa which wasn't even in that dictionary. :)  So, I asked Pawl if it was dialog from the game, and if there were also a skiempa lurking somewhere.  He answered that it was from email to Markì in April, and then confirmed the utility of skiempa (as you see in the quote from the email above).  I then gently prodded Markì to post the info.
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Re: ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2013, 11:21:21 am »
*POKE*

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Re: ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2013, 03:08:09 pm »
I think it's too late for editing this word, because skienpa is now an official Na'vi word. Just too bad! Although we can legalize -np- or make an exception. But it's Karyu Pawl who created that word.

No, Karyu Pawl blessed skiempa, and Markì has introduced a typo.
Ok.

Also, add them on dict-navi.com!
Is already there (thanks, ma Plumps!)
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 03:11:28 pm by Blue Elf »
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Re: ftärpa and skiempa added to dict.
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2013, 09:23:23 am »
I think it's too late for editing this word, because skienpa is now an official Na'vi word. Just too bad! Although we can legalize -np- or make an exception. But it's Karyu Pawl who created that word.

No, Karyu Pawl blessed skiempa, and Markì has introduced a typo.
Ok.

Also, add them on dict-navi.com!
Is already there (thanks, ma Plumps!)
:D
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