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Just a few interesting little words.
« on: March 22, 2010, 04:45:01 pm »
A couple words that got tossed in a response from Kawyu Pawl...

As a derivation, lesar means "useful".
What seems like the interjection "Well...", tse.
And a word skxom for chance, oppertunity.

lesar - adj. useful (fìtìkangkem layu lesar nìtxan frapor) (Stress assumed based off ALL other le- based derivations)
skxom - n. chance (pamrel sayi trray krr a skxom latsu oeru)
tse - intj. well (Tse...  zene pivlltxe san pxìm tsafya lu sìk)

And another example of the -o suffix with ayupxareo (Some messages)

Also, if you write to Paul in Na'vi, it may delay the response a bit because he likes to respond in kind, but wants everything to be perfect before he sends it, so it can take time.  Ironically, after responding to my email in Na'vi, he sent another message a few minutes later correcting something.  I wouldn't bother mentioning this, except the correction itself carries some implications on usage.

He had said "Tsa'u kop krrnekx" but corrected it to "Tsakem kop krrnekx" because actions take time, not things or ideas.  The implication I got off that is that if you know you are talking about something specific like actions, you shouldn't use the generic 'u.
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Re: Just a few interesting little words.
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2010, 04:59:04 pm »
Thanks so much for that - very .... lesar ;)

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Re: Just a few interesting little words.
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2010, 06:28:58 pm »
Ooh ooh, I forgot one little gem I've been wondering about and suspecting but is now confirmed.

As would be implied by the "srake" form, it does not need to be sentence final.  I'd asked a question, and he repeated it before answering, but he worded it with srake first rather than srak last.
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Re: Just a few interesting little words.
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 06:35:53 pm »
Ooh ooh, I forgot one little gem I've been wondering about and suspecting but is now confirmed.

As would be implied by the "srake" form, it does not need to be sentence final.  I'd asked a question, and he repeated it before answering, but he worded it with srake first rather than srak last.

Tse...that's just awesome. Srak, for me, is difficult to render in final position.

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Re: Just a few interesting little words.
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 06:39:09 pm »
So either srake at the start of the sentence, or srak at the end, but never in between?
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Re: Just a few interesting little words.
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2010, 06:43:29 pm »
As would be implied by the "srake" form, it does not need to be sentence final.  I'd asked a question, and he repeated it before answering, but he worded it with srake first rather than srak last.

Huh.  I wonder what sort of implication can be worked into that.  Maybe something like the German particle use of "ja"?
'Awa lì'fya ke tam kawkrr.
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Re: Just a few interesting little words.
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2010, 06:50:30 pm »
So either srake at the start of the sentence, or srak at the end, but never in between?
More like...  It can be at the start or end, we don't know if it can be in between (But TBH I don't see why not.)
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Re: Just a few interesting little words.
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2010, 11:49:57 pm »
Can you quote the question, so that we can see srake in action at the beginning of a clause?

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Re: Just a few interesting little words.
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2010, 12:02:13 am »
Nothing terribly exciting about it...

Me: Cun ga clivam fayupxare leNa'vi ftu ayoe nìftue srak?
Pawl: Srake cun oe fayupxaret clivam nìftue?
Not a direct "san...sìk" quote - his words repeating my question, asked to himself.
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Re: Just a few interesting little words.
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2010, 12:22:43 am »
Cool.

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Re: Just a few interesting little words.
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2010, 05:34:24 am »
Me: Cun ga clivam fayupxare leNa'vi ftu ayoe nìftue srak?
Pawl: Srake cun oe fayupxaret clivam nìftue?

::sigh:: Scientific form.

 

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