Melì'u amip: Ìpxa sì Säzärìp

Started by Taronyu, October 07, 2010, 05:23:08 AM

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Taronyu

I have two new words to announce. :)

rìp: n. pa'li lead, rein (RL, PF)




ìpxa: n. fern (RL, PF)




Säzärìp comes from a suggestion I made for the lead, back when I was trying to change the ASG words into something legal. Ìpxa, though, has a much more cool history. See here:

Quote from: FrommerThinking about it more, I like that form because it illustrates a diachronic phonetic change we haven't yet seen: ay à a . (This is assuming the origin of the word involved hì'i + pxay, which seems reasonable, given the "small" and "many" qualities of ferns that you mentioned, Prrton.)

ay à a ( or a: ), including in word-final position, is attested in many languages. In certain kinds of Southern American English, for example, you have "I" and "my" pronounced "ah" and "mah" respectively. And my paternal grandmother, in her non-standard Galician Yiddish, pronounced the standard word [haynt] 'today' as [ha:nt].

Plus ìpxa preserves the beer/phonetics origin more clearly than ìpxay.

As far as the etymology for fern goes, it comes from two things: the IPA, which is the International Phonetics Alphabet (I use it in the Dictionary.) The other etyma is a beer:



Pawl and I both had an IPA draught of this - IPA stands for India Pale Ale. And there you have it. I had said earlier that I like ejectives, and that I wanted a word for 'fern', and that it ought to start with 'ì' because so little words do. When Pawl heard me order a drink, the word was suggested. Best etymology ever. :D


Nyx

Nice! xD That makes much more sense than it coming from hì'i and pxay  ::)

(You wrote "ìpxay" right before your quote though)

Taronyu


Le'eylan

ìpxa lu yawne oer. Tsatsenget tsalì'ut a ìpxa nolokx lu yawne oer nìteng..
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Tirea Aean

WIN

nì'i'a a word for FERN...AND it has such an awesome etymology. NICE.

Ngawng


29.f.australia

Kì'eyawn

#6
Txantsan!  Lì'ul alu ìpxa Prrtonit 'eykayefatsu nitram nìtxan  :D

Edit:  Leykolatem kxeyeyit ahì'i.  Irayo, ma Kemaweyan.
eo Eywa oe 'ia

Fra'uri tìyawnur oe täpivìng nìwotx...

Kemaweyan

Irayo, ma Taronyu :)

Ma Kì'eyawn, nga namew pamrel sivi san lì'ul sìk, kefyak? ;)
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Kì'eyawn

Quote from: Kemaweyan on October 07, 2010, 11:47:17 AM
Ma Kì'eyawn, nga namew pamrel sivi san lì'ul sìk, kefyak? ;)

Srane, hìtxoa.  Ke fparmängìl oe...  Tsati leykìyatem oel.
eo Eywa oe 'ia

Fra'uri tìyawnur oe täpivìng nìwotx...

omängum fra'uti

Quote from: Tirea Aean on October 07, 2010, 07:39:59 AM
WIN

nì'i'a a word for FERN...AND it has such an awesome etymology. NICE.
Srak tsun fko sivar lì'ut alu nì'i'a nìtsafya?
Ftxey lu nga tokx ftxey lu nga tirea? Lu oe tìkeftxo.
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Tirea Aean

Quote from: omängum fra'uti on October 07, 2010, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on October 07, 2010, 07:39:59 AM
WIN

nì'i'a a word for FERN...AND it has such an awesome etymology. NICE.
Srak tsun fko sivar lì'ut alu nì'i'a nìtsafya?

srake tsun fko sivar lì'ut alu nìtsafya tsafya? HRH

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

Txantsan nang Both terms are really cool. I like the ä sound. And as a student of biology, I appreciate it any time we get new botanical/zoological terms.

It makes me wonder though, if there aren't plant types on Pandora that cannot be properly described with our terms for plants (a fern is something very specific). Specifically, I wonder if there is anything similar there to an `Rrta 'orchid'.

Yawey ngahu!
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omängum fra'uti

Quote from: Spirit Blue on October 07, 2010, 12:06:27 PM
Quote from: omängum fra'uti on October 07, 2010, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on October 07, 2010, 07:39:59 AM
WIN

nì'i'a a word for FERN...AND it has such an awesome etymology. NICE.
Srak tsun fko sivar lì'ut alu nì'i'a nìtsafya?

srake tsun fko sivar lì'ut alu nìtsafya tsafya? HRH
Tsa'u ke lu oeyä tìpawm...

Lì'u alu nì'i'a ke ke lam eyawr oeru....  Ngeyä rel lu nì'ìnglìsì finally, slä fpìl oel futa tsalì'u nì'ìnglìsì slu conclusively.  Ngal tsole'a tìsarit aketeng srak?
Ftxey lu nga tokx ftxey lu nga tirea? Lu oe tìkeftxo.
Listen to my Na'vi Lessons podcast!

Carborundum

Quote from: omängum fra'uti on October 07, 2010, 03:11:52 PM
Quote from: Spirit Blue on October 07, 2010, 12:06:27 PM
Quote from: omängum fra'uti on October 07, 2010, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on October 07, 2010, 07:39:59 AM
WIN

nì'i'a a word for FERN...AND it has such an awesome etymology. NICE.
Srak tsun fko sivar lì'ut alu nì'i'a nìtsafya?

srake tsun fko sivar lì'ut alu nìtsafya tsafya? HRH
Tsa'u ke lu oeyä tìpawm...

Lì'u alu nì'i'a ke ke lam eyawr oeru....  Ngeyä rel lu nì'ìnglìsì finally, slä fpìl oel futa tsalì'u nì'ìnglìsì slu conclusively.  Ngal tsole'a tìsarit aketeng srak?
http://naviteri.org/2010/07/vocabulary-update/
Quote from: FrommerOeri nì'i'a tsyokx zoslolu. 'My hand is finally healed.'
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If I make a mistake, please bring it to my attention for karma.

omängum fra'uti

Ftxey lu nga tokx ftxey lu nga tirea? Lu oe tìkeftxo.
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Taronyu


`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

Quote from: Taronyu on October 07, 2010, 03:33:18 PM
Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on October 07, 2010, 02:59:47 PM
Specifically, I wonder if there is anything similar there to an `Rrta 'orchid'.

Pseudocenia Equina
Pandorchidus Insectoralis

Thank you for those links. I don't believe I have seen this information before.
What makes an orchid an orchid isn't so much specialized pollination by a specific pollinator as does certain structures in the flower that are common to all orchids, no matter how different their flowers are. Although they are the largest family of plants, orchids are technically members of the lily superfamily. And although there are orchids designed to be pollinated by just one animal (almost all insects), many orchids can be pollinated by a wide variety of animals. We see pseudocenia_equina in the film, and pa`li drinking from them. They are almost certainly not orchids. There is no picture of pandorchidus_insectoralis shown, but the description strongly suggests it could be a type of orchid in the sense we sawtute understand them.

Yawey ngahu!
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