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New word from karyu Pawl [tsamkuk]
« on: May 14, 2016, 12:00:37 pm »
Hi all together.

There is a new word, I got directly from Paul after emailing with him.
I sent him an text where I built a word for "war drum", because there wasn´t a word for this
and I asked him to record a short spoken text for me (which includes the plural of this word).

He answered me the following:

Quote from: Paul Frommer
Kaltxì ma 'eveng te atan,

[...]
And I´ve recorded the words in a fifth file. (By the way, the word for war drum is tsamkuk.
I don´t believe I´ve revealed that one yet. Plural, of course, is (ay)samkuk. [...]

So I added this word in the german section of the DICT.

I couldn´t add the english (and/or) other translations because after doing this, the german
translation was overweitten every time, I tried.

Regards,

'eveng te atan.

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Re: New word from karyu Pawl [tsamkuk]
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2016, 12:29:30 pm »
Txantsan ulte irayo!

Look like -kuk part could be an additional word for drum or kind of a drum like au for drum that is made of skin. :) Interesting.


Edit: below me:
Yes, takuk was the word I had in my mind, too. hrh
« Last Edit: May 14, 2016, 12:41:41 pm by Tìtstewan »

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Re: New word from karyu Pawl [tsamkuk]
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2016, 12:35:49 pm »
Probably could come from takuk, to strike/hit

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Re: New word from karyu Pawl [tsamkuk]
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2016, 12:39:24 pm »
Txantsan  :)

Interesting new word.

Probably could come from takuk, to strike/hit
I think too

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Re: New word from karyu Pawl [tsamkuk]
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2016, 12:44:05 pm »
Good - new word after long time!

For adding this word to English part of dict-navi try to ask Plumps - I think he can do that. When it is done, word becomes available to other translators.

Related to -kuk, my idea is it comes from takuk (strike), so it sounds like war strike / strike of war. I don't think -kuk is related to drums, so far we have two king of drums: au and wokau. Both based on au, so either this new one comes from pre-au time  ;D or my explanation works. Or something else ???
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Re: New word from karyu Pawl [tsamkuk]
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2016, 06:07:18 pm »
Quote from: Paul Frommer
Kaltxì ma 'eveng te atan,

[...]
And I´ve recorded the words in a fifth file. (By the way, the word for war drum is tsamkuk.
I don´t believe I´ve revealed that one yet. Plural, of course, is (ay)samkuk. [...]

Yes, I will edit it into the dictionary.

Any word on stress? (tsamkuk or tsamkuk) If he didn’t indicate it in the mail via underlining, maybe we can hear it out from the recording he made?

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Re: New word from karyu Pawl [tsamkuk]
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2016, 03:34:23 pm »
Plumps and I heared the spoken word from Paul and we
both think that it is spoken like "TSAMkuk".

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