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« on: January 17, 2012, 10:16:34 am »
Just a short confirmation.

I asked K. Pawl how to say ‘I open/close my eyes’. I think this was briefly touched upon during the October 2010 meetup but never decided or decisively ruled on. This is what he responded:


Quote from: K. Pawl, 17 Jan 2012
The usage is indeed:

Oeri menarir(u) piak/tstu si. ‘I open/close my eyes.’

You could also justify:

Oe menarir(u) piak/tstu si. Literally, that would be something like: I do opening to the eyes.

To say “His eyes opened,” you’d say:

Pori menari piak säpoli. This is the same pattern as win si / win säpi.


edit: typo, hìtxoa
« Last Edit: January 17, 2012, 05:07:34 pm by Plumps »

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Re: open & close
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 10:33:50 am »
äp. fascinating

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Re: open & close
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 01:21:26 pm »
Irayo ma Plumps. :)
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Re: open & close
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2012, 01:53:20 pm »
I can see and understand the reasoning behind all of the above, but why not:
 
peyä menari tstu säpoli

(too literal minded?)
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Re: open & close
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2012, 02:19:55 pm »
I can see and understand the reasoning behind all of the above, but why not:
 
peyä menari tstu säpoli

(too literal minded?)
eyes fall into inalieable possesion, I think, so topical is best
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Re: open & close
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2012, 02:25:14 pm »
not "is best" as much as "is more idiomatic" as Pawl said

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Re: open & close
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2012, 04:52:29 pm »
I can see and understand the reasoning behind all of the above, but why not:
 
peyä menari tstu säpoli

(too literal minded?)

I think, it would be correct too. But not *Oe menarir(u) piak/tstu si. Tì'efumì oeyä, it's a good example how the word in topic could be the subject (oeri piak si) and express the possession (oeri menarir) in the same sentence. So genitive would be wrong here :)

I asked K. Pawl how to say ‘I hopen/close my eyes’.

Ma Plumps, please fix this ;)
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