Ordinals & nume

Started by Plumps, June 05, 2013, 08:30:20 AM

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Plumps

Ma frapo,

two short confirmations.

I asked Pawl whether putting nì- on ordinals—as we see in nì'awve—would be productive


Quote from: K.Pawl, 5 Jun 2013I don't see why there shouldn't be nìmuve, nìpxeyve, etc. I think they're fine.

Second, I asked about the transitivity of nume ... and I feared as much ;)

Quote from: K.Pawl, 5 Jun 2013As for nume, I've been thinking of it as intransitive, in the sense of 'acquire knowledge or understanding.'

So to learn X, you use nume with X in the topical:

For example, here's some film dialog they asked me for that was never used:

You must learn to hunt with a bow and arrow.
Tsko swizawfa a tìtaronìri zene fko nivume.

So, nume is intransitive ... huh, quelle surprise! :)

Tirea Aean


Kemaweyan

Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Ftiafpi

My goodness, can't believe how long I've been waiting to find out the transivity of nume. Excellent work, ma Plumps.

Eana Unil

#4
nume = vin.?! Wou, eltxur tìtxen si nìtxan  :o :P Irayo ma Plumps! :D

Though I wonder why inan is vtr. ("gain knowledge from sensory input"), while nume is now declared as vin. ("acquire knowledge or understanding")... Tse... pxasìk :P

Tirea Aean

Interesting thought:

What did Tsu'tey say in the film about Jake? This alien will learn nothing!  Almost sounded like:

Fìketuwong ke nayume, ke'u

Toruk Makto

Wou, indeed! Dictionary updated.

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Talis

this is very unexpected  :o but nevertheless good to know, irayo nìtxan!   :D

Le'eylan

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Blue Elf

Well, seems that many texts should be rewritten. It'll require some time to get used to this fact. :o
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Le'eylan

Quote from: Blue Elf on June 05, 2013, 12:21:08 PM
Well, seems that many texts should be rewritten. It'll require some time to get used to this fact. :o
Exatcly... Wow, the errors I've made  ;)
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Tirea Aean

Quote from: Le'eylan on June 05, 2013, 01:00:50 PM
Quote from: Blue Elf on June 05, 2013, 12:21:08 PM
Well, seems that many texts should be rewritten. It'll require some time to get used to this fact. :o
Exatcly... Wow, the errors I've made  ;)
And all the incorrect corrections I've made ..

Le'eylan

Quote from: Tirea Aean on June 05, 2013, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: Le'eylan on June 05, 2013, 01:00:50 PM
Quote from: Blue Elf on June 05, 2013, 12:21:08 PM
Well, seems that many texts should be rewritten. It'll require some time to get used to this fact. :o
Exatcly... Wow, the errors I've made  ;)
And all the incorrect corrections I've made ..
Haha, such a bad teacher!
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Kamean

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Alyara Arati

Ooops!  I didn't see that coming. :o  But thanks for posting the update, ma Plumps. :)
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Vawmataw

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Quote from: Plumps on June 05, 2013, 08:30:20 AM
So, nume is intransitive ... huh, quelle surprise! :)


What a surprise! :o
So during that moment, everyone tìkxey sami?
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`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

Lì'fyari 'nume', oeng set zene nivume nìmun!

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Tirea Aean

Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on June 05, 2013, 09:18:07 PM
Lì'fyari 'nume', oeng set zene nivume nìmun!

Not sure if you meant:

Lì'uri alu nume, ayoeng set zene nivume nìmun!
Now we must learn the word 'nume' again!

srane, zene... but I'm already used to the change. I think. :D

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

Quote from: Tirea Aean on June 05, 2013, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on June 05, 2013, 09:18:07 PM
Lì'fyari 'nume', oeng set zene nivume nìmun!

Not sure if you meant:

Lì'uri alu nume, ayoeng set zene nivume nìmun!
Now we must learn the word 'nume' again!

srane, zene... but I'm already used to the change. I think. :D

I never thought of alu being needed there. Good catch! I still don't really understand that word.

The use of lì'fya was a mistake from trying hard to use vocabulary without looking it up to confirm what I thought :(

In any case, I am looking forward to meeting you in person in a few weeks, and maybe even learning something from you ;)

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