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Pawl and other conlangers are doing an AMA
« on: August 12, 2016, 03:36:11 pm »
Okay, this may not be a real language update but I don't know where to post it otherwise... but David Petersen, Christine Schreyer, David Peterson and Karyu Pawl are hosting an AMA ("ask me anything") session on reddit here. As for Na'vi: lots of it we already know, but there are some interesting background stories about how Na'vi was created. It's also very interesting to read about the other conlangs.

Edit: someone asked the following question in Na'vi and Pawl even responded in Na'vi:
Quote from: gloubenterder
Dyeymzkemerenìl kan ngalyop tsìngrelit aruikx teri ayuniltìrantokx. Srake ngal omum vurìl?
("Dyeymz Kemeren intends to make four moving pictures about dreamwalkers. Do you know the story?")
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Quote from: Karyu Pawl
(I'm impressed!) Ngeyä tì'pawmìri seiyi oe irayo, ma 'eylan. Slä zene pivlltxe, ke omängum oel vurit fayrelarusikxä. (Thanks for your question, friend. But I have to say, I unfortunately don't know the story of these films.)

I do know a few things about them that the public doesn't know, but I hope to know a lot more soon. :-)

I'm not sure whether this shows that rel arusikx can be written as relarusikx (otherwise it would be relä arusikx, kefyak?), or that it was just a typo :)

Edit 2:
Quote from: Karyu Pawl
(...) in a few cases I've created "tribute words" in Na'vi that are based on someone's name, someone I want to honor. So there's a word in Na'vi that's actually my brother's name spelled backwards. Thing is, the backwards version fits perfectly into the Na'vi sound system, so it's very natural, and no one would know unless they were told.
(source)
Wow :o

I have an idea which word this could be, but I'm not sure if Pawl would like his brother's name out on the Internet, so I think it is better to refrain from posting it here.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2016, 04:31:03 pm by Wllìm »
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Re: Pawl and other conlangers are doing an AMA
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2016, 08:29:15 pm »
I'm not sure whether this shows that rel arusikx can be written as relarusikx (otherwise it would be relä arusikx, kefyak?), or that it was just a typo :)
This thing deserves some mini-reflection.
Personally, I highly doubt that, given the quality of the message, he would destroy the Na'vi language at one special place.

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Re: Pawl and other conlangers are doing an AMA
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2016, 04:02:01 am »
I'm not sure whether this shows that rel arusikx can be written as relarusikx (otherwise it would be relä arusikx, kefyak?), or that it was just a typo :)
This thing deserves some mini-reflection.
Personally, I highly doubt that, given the quality of the message, he would destroy the Na'vi language at one special place.

I think it is a mistake. Consider that the Na'vi don't have movies themselves. They will use rel arusikx only when talking about skypeople, so not very often. I think it is not a phrase used frequently enough that it would become one word.
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Re: Pawl and other conlangers are doing an AMA
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2016, 07:19:21 am »
I'm not sure whether this shows that rel arusikx can be written as relarusikx (otherwise it would be relä arusikx, kefyak?), or that it was just a typo :)
This thing deserves some mini-reflection.
Personally, I highly doubt that, given the quality of the message, he would destroy the Na'vi language at one special place.

I think it is a mistake. Consider that the Na'vi don't have movies themselves. They will use rel arusikx only when talking about skypeople, so not very often. I think it is not a phrase used frequently enough that it would become one word.
I think that it's right idea - Na'vi really don't have movies themselves
I also think that it's only typo  :)

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Re: Pawl and other conlangers are doing an AMA
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2016, 07:24:17 am »
Interesting information. As for rel arusikx, I think it's a typo, too. But also interesting is this:
...tsìngrelit aruikx teri ayuniltìrantokx...
four movie aka tetralogy?

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Re: Pawl and other conlangers are doing an AMA
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2016, 09:38:25 am »
Interesting information. As for rel arusikx, I think it's a typo, too. But also interesting is this:
...tsìngrelit aruikx teri ayuniltìrantokx...
four movie aka tetralogy?

Well, this was written by the person who asked the question, who asked questions in five (!) conlangs. They said they were fluent in Klingon only, so I think it is very impressive they managed to write understandable questions in the four other languages :) See the original post here.

I guess they looked at the grammar description, found out that you should use merel two images and pxerel three images, looked up tsìng four and, kind of logically, thought that four images would be tsìngrel.
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Re: Pawl and other conlangers are doing an AMA
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2016, 10:29:24 am »
Oh, I see. The posting style of Reddit confused me, lol.

I guess they looked at the grammar description, found out that you should use merel two images and pxerel three images, looked up tsìng four and, kind of logically, thought that four images would be tsìngrel.
I think so.

As for relarusikx, I could ask Pawl about it. :)

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Re: Pawl and other conlangers are doing an AMA
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2016, 12:44:08 pm »
Interesting information. As for rel arusikx, I think it's a typo, too. But also interesting is this:
...tsìngrelit aruikx teri ayuniltìrantokx...
four movie aka tetralogy?

Well, this was written by the person who asked the question, who asked questions in five (!) conlangs. They said they were fluent in Klingon only, so I think it is very impressive they managed to write understandable questions in the four other languages :) See the original post here.

I guess they looked at the grammar description, found out that you should use merel two images and pxerel three images, looked up tsìng four and, kind of logically, thought that four images would be tsìngrel.
Apparently - if you look at original message, there's more mistakes, so it was written by someone, who has some knowledge of Na'vi, but not too deep (two agentives in sentence, typo in arusikx, transliteration of James Cameron)
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Dyeymzkemerenìl kan ngalyop tsìngrelit aruikx teri ayuniltìrantokx. Srake ngal omum vurìl
So let's don't search new rules here :)

Pawl's answer is something different (as he is expert and creator of language),
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... ke omängum oel vurit fayrelarusikxä
but I believe it is just typo or mistake, correct form must be fayrelä arusikx, based on dictionary.
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