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New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« on: January 15, 2016, 07:30:58 am »
The local newspaper made a report about the Toruk show.  Somehow they were granted access to the scripts, so they could translate the Na'vi for us. I found a new verb, pllhrr, to warn or alert.

Should we wait for the confirmation of Pawl?

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Re: pllhrr, a new word?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2016, 08:51:25 am »
Perhaps, the LEP smuk should ask Pawl for confirmation. What is pllrr? Apparently alert, warn?
Btw,
Quote from: that newspaper
Zene pivllhrr ayolu'ur alahe.
Il faut alerter les autres clans.
(We) must alert other clans.
They made a typo at olo' :P

Regarding new words, in the Shaman Story, there appeared a new word: eyawrfya right way
(I suggested to ask Pawl about a written confirmation of this word in the LEP)

EDIT:
Quote from: that newspaper
Lu lor poe.
C'est elle qui est belle.
It is she who is beautiful.
^Interesting

EDIT 2:
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/01/15/dans-les-coulisses-de-itoruk---le-premier-envol-i
just scroll down to "quelques mots en Na'vi" :) It's the same one like the newpaper one.
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Re: pllhrr, a new word?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2016, 10:48:30 am »
Perhaps, the LEP smuk should ask Pawl for confirmation. What is pllrr? Apparently alert, warn?
Btw,

I think - it's to warm/to alert but  vin. form... but yeah ask Pawl first. :)
Quote from: that newspaper
Zene pivllhrr ayolu'ur alahe.
Il faut alerter les autres clans.
(We) must alert other clans.
They made a typo at olo' :P

It's disappointing that people can't copy thing properly :facepalm:
Regarding new words, in the Shaman Story, there appeared a new word: eyawrfya right way
(I suggested to ask Pawl about a written confirmation of this word in the LEP)

Even thought it's not official word, it is 'normal' combining two words into one and it's understandable but still unofficial (yet)...
EDIT:
Quote from: that newspaper
Lu lor poe.
C'est elle qui est belle.
It is she who is beautiful.
^Interesting
EDIT 2:
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/01/15/dans-les-coulisses-de-itoruk---le-premier-envol-i
just scroll down to "quelques mots en Na'vi" :) It's the same one like the newpaper one.

Thanks for link on the newspaper :D
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Re: pllhrr, a new word?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2016, 10:59:46 am »
Wou! A word for warn! Thanks for posting this!
I guess it would be from plltxe + hrrap tell the danger. So although it is not confirmed yet, I'm quite sure that this word is real. :D

Quote from: that newspaper
Zene pivllhrr ayolu'ur alahe.
Il faut alerter les autres clans.
(We) must alert other clans.
They made a typo at olo' :P

It's disappointing that people can't copy thing properly :facepalm:

By the way, they also wrote i instead of ì everywhere ;) On the other hand, I can imagine that this is hard for reporters...

Edit: It is interesting that we already have the word penghrrap for the type of plant that warns for danger. For some reason there peng is used and now plltxe.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 11:07:10 am by Wllìm »
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Re: pllhrr, a new word?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 11:03:04 am »
Eltur tìtxen si  :)

I guess it would be from plltxe + hrrap tell the danger.

Yes, it looks logically  :)

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Re: pllhrr, a new word?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2016, 12:02:59 pm »
EDIT 2:
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/01/15/dans-les-coulisses-de-itoruk---le-premier-envol-i
just scroll down to "quelques mots en Na'vi" :) It's the same one like the newpaper one.
Yeah, the same company as Le Journal de Québec.

Mistakes happen when people are not skilled in a language. ;) But this is a reliable newspaper, so it's a semi-official word.

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Re: pllhrr, a new word?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2016, 03:53:32 pm »
So:

pllhrr vin. alert, warn
« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 04:05:34 pm by Vawmataw »

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Re: pllhrr, a new word?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2016, 03:55:44 pm »
So:

pivllhrr vin. alert, warn
What is source, is it official?
I've got soundtrack, so I'll try to hear and analyze (do not expect result early :))
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Re: New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2016, 03:58:42 pm »
So:

pivllhrr vin. alert, warn
What is source, is it official?
I've got soundtrack, so I'll try to hear and analyze (do not expect result early :))
...

The source is above. Journal de Québec/Montréal, Quebecor
And it's almost official because it's not been confirmed by our Karyu.

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Re: pllhrr, a new word?
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2016, 04:55:42 pm »
So:

pllhrr vin. alert, warn

Possibru ;)

So:

pivllhrr vin. alert, warn
What is source, is it official?
I've got soundtrack, so I'll try to hear and analyze (do not expect result early :))

Neytiri and also I tried to  catch lines of first two song "Shaman story" song and "Lu 'Aw Na'vi" song. Her results are on Keypuk fìtsenge.

Btw, Both lyrics are already on LN wiki. *

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Re: New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2016, 04:59:22 pm »
Penghrr - tell-danger
Pllhrr - speak-danger

They are very nearly the same, but different enough that both would be useful. Definitely something for Pawl!

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Re: New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2016, 07:21:36 pm »
Penghrr - tell-danger
Pllhrr - speak-danger

They are very nearly the same, but different enough that both would be useful. Definitely something for Pawl!

Penghrr
Pllhrr
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tell-danger
speak-danger
  - 
  - 
warn/alert
warn/alert
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  - 
vtr
vin

My guess, how it could looks like :)
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Re: New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2016, 07:26:17 pm »
Hm... Penghrr could mean report, in the sense of reporting a danger or a misbehaviour.
In any case, I don't think they would create two words for the same thing.

However, I can only attest the existence of pllhrr.
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Re: pllhrr, a new word?
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2016, 10:24:15 am »
Neytiri and also I tried to  catch lines of first two song "Shaman story" song and "Lu 'Aw Na'vi" song. Her results are on Keypuk fìtsenge.

Btw, Both lyrics are already on LN wiki. *

Quote from: Lu 'Aw Na'vi
Awnga lu 'aw,
Lu 'aw Na'vi,
'Awstengyäpem,
Lu 'aw Na'vi,
Lu txur awnga,
Lu 'aw Na'vi,
Seykxel sì txur,
Lu 'aw Na'vi.
What source do you use? I've listened to Lu 'aw Na'vi several times, and I hear this:

Awnga lu 'aw
lu 'aw Na'vi
lu txur awnga
lu 'aw Na'vi

I'm wondering whether soundtrack differs from live performance?
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


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Re: New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2016, 10:41:48 am »
I think there was an official video where you could read the text.

Edit: Here it is:
https://youtu.be/7HxPwr5Z00o?t=1m12s

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Re: New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2016, 11:02:40 am »
I think there was an official video where you could read the text.

Edit: Here it is:
https://youtu.be/7HxPwr5Z00o?t=1m12s
I don't see any written text there and what they sing is still what I can hear in soundtrack...
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


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Re: New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2016, 11:03:22 am »
I don't see any written text there and what they sing is still what I can hear in soundtrack...
What??!! at 1:12 she holds a sheet

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Re: New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2016, 11:05:21 am »
I think there was an official video where you could read the text.

Edit: Here it is:
https://youtu.be/7HxPwr5Z00o?t=1m12s
I don't see any written text there and what they sing is still what I can hear in soundtrack...
Here you go:
http://forum.learnnavi.org/news-announcements/toruk-the-first-flight-meet-cumie-dunio-the-shaman-of-the-omatikaya-clan/msg636441/#msg636441
The screenshot in the spoiler. :)

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Re: New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2016, 11:06:51 am »
The screenshot doesn't work, because it belongs to the old gallery.

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Re: New vocabulary from Toruk - The First Flight
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2016, 11:13:11 am »
'ä'! Link fixed. :) :P

EDIT:
I tried to get that screenshot in a little bit better quality:
« Last Edit: January 16, 2016, 11:44:49 am by Tìtstewan »

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