Got any questions for Paul?

Started by Tsyeymzi, November 21, 2010, 04:57:55 AM

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Tsyeymzi

Hey everyone,

I figure here is the best section, but if not, mods, feel free to move this post.

I'm meeting with Paul tomorrow and... well, yeah... feel free to post any questions you would like me to ask him. :D

ta Tsyeymzi
- The Signature is a Lie -

Puvomun

Tewti!! I jump immediately!
Na'vi has a word for writing (pamrel) but I have not found a word for reading yet. Is there one or will there be one?

(OME, you are really going to meet him? WOU!)
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Tsyeymzi

Quote from: Puvomun on November 21, 2010, 05:00:52 AM
(OME, you are really going to meet him? WOU!)

Yep. I've been talking with him over email since the start of the year; and now that he came down to Australia to speak at a University, he wanted to sit down and have a chat over a coffee :)
- The Signature is a Lie -

Puvomun

Quote from: Tsyeymzi on November 21, 2010, 05:03:56 AM
Yep. I've been talking with him over email since the start of the year; and now that he came down to Australia to speak at a University, he wanted to sit down and have a chat over a coffee :)

Aaaahhhhhh... I am not jealous. I am definitely not jealous. (I will keep repeating this until I believe it.)
If you can, give him my best regards, from a Paul in the Netherlands :D
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Ftiafpi

Txantsana fmawn! Oe sìlpey tsnì ngaru lu prrte' fwa ngeyä ultxa hu karyu Pawl. :)

I'd ask him about the line from the collectors edition of Avatar:

Peyä menarisì nìhawng lu hì'i

And ask him if that was intended or an actor flub of the line.

Tsyeymzi

I'd also like to apologize. I'm sure some of you are thinking - ESPECIALLY those who end up reading this AFTER I meet up with him:

"He's been talking to him all year, I'm sure he's had this meeting planned for a while. Why tell us THE DAY before?"

Yeah... Well... Between BlackOps, Hot Pursuit, Gran Turismo (soon), finishing school (forever!) and a girlfriend... Na'vi hasn't exactly been my top priority.

So... Sorry guys :-[
- The Signature is a Lie -

Puvomun

Hey, at least we did not hear this afterwards!

Good luck with being busy.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Carborundum

I think it's past time we learned what tsaleioae means.
We learn from our mistakes only if we are made aware of them.
If I make a mistake, please bring it to my attention for karma.

Kì'eyawn

Ooh, this one's been on my mind for a while.  i doubt he could answer this off the cuff, but i've been thinking about the verb 'ia, and what *'eykia and *tì'ia might mean, if they existed in the language.  I was thinking 'ia-derived words might relate to the Greek concept of κένωσις (kénōsis), but wasn't sure.  So, yeah; and if he just looks at you like  ??? ... s'okay.

P.S. Regarding kenosis, tell him Wikipedia has everything he needs to know  ;)
eo Eywa oe 'ia

Fra'uri tìyawnur oe täpivìng nìwotx...

wm.annis

Congratulate him and John on not getting kidnapped by Elves or Hobbits while in NZ.

Sireayä mokri

Couple of questions I have:

Is is necessary to always put topic in the beginning of a sentence or it's optional?

And are pänutìng and ralpeng transitive?
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Prrton

Quote from: Ftiafpi on November 21, 2010, 05:22:30 AM
Txantsana fmawn! Oe sìlpey tsnì ngaru lu prrte' fwa ngeyä ultxa hu karyu Pawl. :)

I'd ask him about the line from the collectors edition of Avatar:

Peyä menarisì nìhawng lu hì'i

And ask him if that was intended or an actor flub of the line.

He may not recognize what this is referring too unless you give him the full context. I don't think he's seen the deleted scenes. Please ask him if this might of had anything to do with CC coming up with the word «snumìna».

Wish them a safe trip back to LA this week!


Muzer

I did a double-take there, because you just mentioned CC, I thought LA = Laz Alonzo :P
[21:42:56] <@Muzer> Apple products used to be good, if expensive
[21:42:59] <@Muzer> now they are just expensive

Prrton

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on November 21, 2010, 10:20:11 AM
Couple of questions I have:

(1) Is is necessary to always put topic in the beginning of a sentence or it's optional?

(2) And are pänutìng and ralpeng transitive?

Examples you can show him:

(1) "Please tell your mother that I said it would be especially beneficial for your sick brother to drink a weak solution of ball tree sap."

  (A) Tsaria ngeyä tsmukan lu spxin, rutxe Sa'nokur piveng san lu nìpxi sìltsan fwa näk pol meypa naerit payä a ta rumut.

  (B) Rutxe Sa'nokur piveng san lu nìpxi sìltsan fwa näk pol meypa naerit payä a ta rumut sìk, tsaria ngeyä tsmukan lu spxin.

Must it be A? Is B OK, but substandard? Are both A and B equally acceptable?

(2)

"I promised him that I will go tomorrow."

  (A) Oe pänutolìng por tsara kä trray.

  (B) Oel pänutolìng por tsata kä trray.

Is A correct, or is B correct, or should it be something different?

"Tsu'tey translated Jakes message for everyone."

  (A) Ralpoleng Tsu'tey 'upxarer Tsyeykä frapor.

  (B) Ralpoleng Tsu'teyl 'upxareti Tsyeykä frapor.

Is A correct, or is B correct, or should it be something different?


Prrton

Quote from: Muzer on November 21, 2010, 11:43:02 AM
I did a double-take there, because you just mentioned CC, I thought LA = Laz Alonzo :P

   LosÄntsyìlìsì (nìfya'o a plltxe aysute Yu.E.Seyä)  ;)

Sireayä mokri

Quote from: Prrton on November 21, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
 (A) Ralpoleng Tsu'tey 'upxarer Tsyeykä frapor.

I would rather think of topic here:

'Upxareri Tsyeykä ralpoleng Tse'tey frapor.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Kemaweyan

Quote from: Prrton on November 21, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
"I promised him that I will go tomorrow."

  (A) Oe pänutolìng por tsara kä trray.

  (B) Oel pänutolìng por tsata kä trray.

I think it should be Oe pänutolìng por tsaria kä trray instead of tsara, kefyak?
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Carborundum

Quote from: Kemaweyan on November 21, 2010, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: Prrton on November 21, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
"I promised him that I will go tomorrow."

  (A) Oe pänutolìng por tsara kä trray.

  (B) Oel pänutolìng por tsata kä trray.

I think it should be Oe pänutolìng por tsaria kä trray instead of tsara, kefyak?
It should be tsawa, since that sentence assumes pänutìng to be intransitive.
We learn from our mistakes only if we are made aware of them.
If I make a mistake, please bring it to my attention for karma.

Prrton

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on November 21, 2010, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: Prrton on November 21, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
 (A) Ralpoleng Tsu'tey 'upxarer Tsyeykä frapor.

I would rather think of topic here:

'Upxareri Tsyeykä ralpoleng Tse'tey frapor.

Yes. But I don't know. That's why it's important for there to be examples. Paul's marking an example is BAD (and explaining why) is just as helpful as getting the right way. Knowing the right way doesn't tell us why the wrong way FEELs wrong to him.

And, sometimes there are multiple correct ways with subtleties in differences. Sometimes those subtleties are important and sometimes not.

Quote from: Kemaweyan on November 21, 2010, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: Prrton on November 21, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
"I promised him that I will go tomorrow."

  (A) Oe pänutolìng por tsara kä trray.

  (B) Oel pänutolìng por tsata kä trray.

I think it should be Oe pänutolìng por tsaria kä trray instead of tsara, kefyak?

Ibid.


wm.annis

Um.  Ma smuktu.  This is a chat over coffee, not a version of the Language Workshop for those living under the Southern Cross.  We already know he likes to go meditate about difficult questions. :) It might be best to stay simple.

My only question for him, until after the holidays pass, would be for the Na'vi equivalent of "uh, um" — what to say while you think about what you want to say.  I'd guess just e... or ì... based on the behavior of other languages, but who knows.