Sì'eyng a ftu Na'rìng #2: The rest of the Top 7

Started by Lance R. Casey, October 07, 2010, 04:24:20 PM

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'Oma Tirea

Quote from: Tirea Aean in TS<22:32:51> "Tirea Aean": of course none of this is canon as I do not make the rules around these parts
<22:33:19> "Tirea Aean": just my speculation on the matter, stating wht i believe makes sense

Hmm... >.<

(Wonders at his own pace for now...)

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Quote from: Kì'eyawn on October 08, 2010, 03:56:47 PM
Ma Plumps, i'm not sure that it can't be a tìrol...  A tìrol has to be sung at least, but i don't know that it must be sung only—does that make sense?

It does – thank you, ma Lawren ;)

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Swoka Swizaw

Quote from: Lance R. Casey on October 07, 2010, 04:24:20 PM
  • Na'vi does not have double or long vowels naturally, but they can arise as the result of affixing. In writing, this is marked with a hyphen: oe-eo before me, zekwä-äo under the finger, fya'o-o some way

Just a thought, if not already brought up, why could this idea NOT work with the adjectival attributive marker? Apxa-a utral, perhaps? Someone, please ask Frommer if this could work...

wm.annis

Quote from: Ìngkoruptusì on October 11, 2010, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: Lance R. Casey on October 07, 2010, 04:24:20 PM
  • Na'vi does not have double or long vowels naturally, but they can arise as the result of affixing. In writing, this is marked with a hyphen: oe-eo before me, zekwä-äo under the finger, fya'o-o some way

Just a thought, if not already brought up, why could this idea NOT work with the adjectival attributive marker? Apxa-a utral, perhaps? Someone, please ask Frommer if this could work...

He has already said that attributive -a- doesn't work this way.  In the situation of adpositions and indefinite -o, these suffixed forms are content-bearing.  Dropping one of them is a serious change in meaning.  Loss of attributive -a- on a single adjective is at worst potentially ambiguous from time to time.

Swoka Swizaw

Quote from: wm.annis on October 11, 2010, 09:34:19 PM
He has already said that attributive -a- doesn't work this way.  In the situation of adpositions and indefinite -o, these suffixed forms are content-bearing.  Dropping one of them is a serious change in meaning.  Loss of attributive -a- on a single adjective is at worst potentially ambiguous from time to time.

Yeah, I figured all that. It seemed like it could complete something which had bothered me; Frommer appeared to have discoveed how to fix many things with this one idea, but hey...

Ftiafpi

Quote from: Tirea Aean on October 08, 2010, 11:21:29 PM
Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on October 08, 2010, 11:15:09 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on October 08, 2010, 11:09:43 PM
Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on October 08, 2010, 09:31:06 PM
Quote from: Ftiafpi on October 08, 2010, 09:50:02 AM
The released stops is so excellent and totally unexpected. It makes a lot of sense though and I like it a lot, really makes it easier to speak fluidly.

...and in slower formalized speech?!?!?!?!?!?!?




what do you THINK happens. most likely the unreleasedness comes back. wow.

Irayo.  Even a with simple answer like that, oe mivawey.



ok that was mean. Tsari tsap'alute.

what i really mean to say is: Tì'efumì oeyä,

logic tells me that if the unreleased goes away for sake of flow and fast-speech phenomenon, then it will come back when deliberately trying to be slow and clear.

we were talking at the ultxa sometime about people learning English as second langauge and stuff like shoulda coulda woulda gonna and how they are results of fast speech and flow, where as if you were to be clear you would say should have, could have, would have, going to, etc. not sure the relevance, but just my eighth of a cent. ;D
Yeah, I want to second this. I remember that discussion and Frommer directly relating the released stops to English's "shoulda coulda woulda". I'd say it's a fairly good assumption to think that the stops would return to unreleased if one was to try to speak as clearly as possible.