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Stress shift in OMUM is irregular
« on: September 26, 2010, 09:40:42 pm »

I've heard «omum» pronounced by K. Pawl both with stress on O and on U. This is not 'normal' for Na'vi, so I asked him. And he answered:

Quote from: Paul Frommer to Prrton via e-mail 26 Sept., 2010

Your ears didn't deceive you. I vacillated on the stress for this word. And after thinking about it, I want to make this an exception to the general rule that the stress doesn't shift for derived forms. (A few odd quirks and exceptions make a language interesting, kefyak? <l>)

So for omum only:

When the word is in root form, the stress is on the second syllable:

Oe oMUM. Ke oMUM oe.

But in derived and inflected forms, it shifts to the o:

New oe iVOmum.

NìawNOmum . . .

Etc.

P.


So there we have it. An irregular verb.

Yeay! (I think)  8)



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Re: Stress shift in OMUM is irregular
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2010, 09:46:32 pm »
Irayo ;) Slä oe frakrr pamltxe nì'aw san omum sìk sì san ivomum sìk.. Slä set olomum oel futa oer tìkxey lamu ;D

Thanks ;) I always said only "omum" and "ivomum". But now I've learned that I was mistaken  ;D
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Re: Stress shift in OMUM is irregular
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2010, 11:10:19 pm »
WOO for irregular verbs! :D


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Re: Stress shift in OMUM is irregular
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2010, 11:29:48 pm »
you know the sad thing? I saw this on facebook before i saw it here.
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Re: Stress shift in OMUM is irregular
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2010, 12:49:04 am »
Hmm eltur tìtxen si. Lam oeru stxong, slä Karyu Pawlìl ayhorenit ngivop!

Hmm, interesting. It seems strange to me, but Paul makes the rules!

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Re: Stress shift in OMUM is irregular
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 07:50:37 am »
I've been saying it like that too. Weird! And yay for irregularity :D

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Re: Stress shift in OMUM is irregular
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 08:50:56 am »
*sigh* I've been doing exactly the opposite *headdesk*

Oh well...

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Re: Stress shift in OMUM is irregular
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 11:27:44 pm »
Quite the find.  Never would've guessed that quickly....

And hey, hasn't anybody else noticed there's a new blog post at Na'viteri?  WTF, Na'vi-bot?

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Re: Stress shift in OMUM is irregular
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 11:38:01 pm »
*sigh* I've been doing exactly the opposite *headdesk*

Oh well...

And hey, hasn't anybody else noticed there's a new blog post at Na'viteri?  WTF, Na'vi-bot?

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