The Reflexive and "My name is..." (from a Frommer email!!!!)

Started by Tseyk Tìriuä, February 01, 2010, 06:42:14 PM

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Quote from: omängum fra'uti on February 02, 2010, 04:39:35 AM
We know as much about the participle now as we did then though.  The only thing we know now that we didn't know then is how subjunctive and tense meld, and what the reflexive infix is.  The rest we either had a correct assumption about or still don't know.  The participle being pre-first, for example, is based on a statement from Frommer that is unclear at best.
But we now have the reflexive in pre-1st, and we know how and when to use that -- at least in clear cases.

omängum fra'uti

Right, but we KNEW reflexive was pre-first already, we just didn't know what the infix was or how to use it.  So reserving a spot JUST for something we didn't even know seems a little silly.  The participle MAY be pre-first, but it may also be first.  We know the infix, but we don't know the details of it's use, so again reserving a spot for it seems a little silly.
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Quote from: Tseyk Tìriuä on February 01, 2010, 09:44:21 PM
I'm sure it will be added shortly (they are good with this kind of stuff).

Cheers.

I'll put this in mine later. Got stuff to do, currently.

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I knew I should have read the second page of this thread before checking to see if it was in the dictionary.  :-[

Sorry, I posted this in the dictionary thread.


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Tseyk Tìriuä

I didn't want to bombard Frommer with 50 questions those confused about infixes.  For now this is a gold mine of information. xD


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Okay, so i have a question about using the reflexive:  Any thoughts on how we would differentiate between "we see ourselves" vs. "we see each other"?
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roger

Quote from: tigermind on February 05, 2010, 08:55:47 PM
Okay, so i have a question about using the reflexive:  Any thoughts on how we would differentiate between "we see ourselves" vs. "we see each other"?

That's the $64 question.

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Quote from: tigermind on February 05, 2010, 08:55:47 PM
Okay, so i have a question about using the reflexive:  Any thoughts on how we would differentiate between "we see ourselves" vs. "we see each other"?

Hmmmm, I don't think that "we see each other" is reflexive, it's reciprocal.  Until we have a formation for "each other" or "one another", I think you'll just have to spell it out, i.e:

Oel ngati kame ulte/tengfya/tengkrr ngal oeti kame. or something like that.

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Tseyk Tìriuä

We see each other isn't reflexive...this is for things like "we see ourselves" only.


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Kì'eyawn

Okay, okay, reciprocal is not reflexive--don't shoot the neuro student =)
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roger

Quote from: tigermind on February 06, 2010, 10:16:59 AM
Okay, okay, reciprocal is not reflexive--don't shoot the neuro student =)

But there are plenty of languages that use it as one. That might be a little too European to be in Na'vi, but you never know.

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