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Topical Position
« on: September 08, 2011, 05:48:43 pm »
I asked him if my strong suspicion about the location of the topical was correct.

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Ngaru tìyawr. The topical comes at the head of its clause. Poetic syntax, of course, is little indication of the rules for ordinary prose. "I thee wed" and a million other examples in English. ...

I see where the impulse comes from to free the topical from clause-initial position, because on occasion I've been tempted to do that myself. But I've (almost) always found ways around the problem that don't violate that restriction.
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Re: Topical Position
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2011, 07:57:35 pm »
Great news! We can lay tihs matter to rest, case closed. Irayo.

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Re: Topical Position
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 11:08:47 pm »
That's where I've always put it and that's where I'll continue to put it. Fmawnìri seiyi irayo :)

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Re: Topical Position
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2011, 11:17:17 pm »
What if there are several attributions to the topical noun, can those come before the topical?

N.K.: Tstwea stxeliri afkew, ngaru irayo seiyi

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Re: Topical Position
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2011, 11:35:54 pm »
Of course, tì'efumì oeyä :) The member of clause is the word with all attributes, so in your example topical member is entire expression tstwea stxeliri afkew. Another example:

  Furia nga srung soli oer, oe seiyi ngaru irayo.
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Re: Topical Position
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 01:09:11 am »
to be more precise: Tstewa stxelìri afkew, ngaru irayo seiyi  :)
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Re: Topical Position
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 02:16:46 am »
Thanks for the confirmation. That’s how I did it (after the model from what I’ve seen from the examples of K. Pawl).

to be more precise: Tstewa stxelìri afkew, ngaru irayo seiyi  :)
To be even more precise ;) it’s stxeliri because the base word is stxeli ;)

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Re: Topical Position
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 06:14:03 am »
I kind of got the idea that we knew this already, glad it's confirmed now :D

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Re: Topical Position
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 06:40:06 am »
to be more precise: Tstewa stxelìri afkew, ngaru irayo seiyi  :)
To be even more precise ;) it’s stxeliri because the base word is stxeli ;)
Really, sorry for confusing  :(
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Re: Topical Position
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 08:40:07 am »
I've been waiting for the confirmation on this for quite a while. Irayo!
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