Topical Position

Started by wm.annis, September 08, 2011, 05:48:43 PM

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wm.annis

I asked him if my strong suspicion about the location of the topical was correct.

Quote from: Karyu PawlNgaru tìyawr. The topical comes at the head of its clause. Poetic syntax, of course, is little indication of the rules for ordinary prose. "I thee wed" and a million other examples in English. ...

I see where the impulse comes from to free the topical from clause-initial position, because on occasion I've been tempted to do that myself. But I've (almost) always found ways around the problem that don't violate that restriction.

Tirea Aean

Great news! We can lay tihs matter to rest, case closed. Irayo.

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That's where I've always put it and that's where I'll continue to put it. Fmawnìri seiyi irayo :)

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What if there are several attributions to the topical noun, can those come before the topical?

N.K.: Tstwea stxeliri afkew, ngaru irayo seiyi

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Kemaweyan

Of course, tì'efumì oeyä :) The member of clause is the word with all attributes, so in your example topical member is entire expression tstwea stxeliri afkew. Another example:

  Furia nga srung soli oer, oe seiyi ngaru irayo.
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Blue Elf

to be more precise: Tstewa stxelìri afkew, ngaru irayo seiyi  :)
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Plumps

Thanks for the confirmation. That's how I did it (after the model from what I've seen from the examples of K. Pawl).

Quote from: Blue Elf on September 09, 2011, 01:09:11 AM
to be more precise: Tstewa stxelìri afkew, ngaru irayo seiyi  :)
To be even more precise ;) it's stxeliri because the base word is stxeli ;)

Nyx

I kind of got the idea that we knew this already, glad it's confirmed now :D

Blue Elf

Quote from: Plumps on September 09, 2011, 02:16:46 AM
Quote from: Blue Elf on September 09, 2011, 01:09:11 AM
to be more precise: Tstewa stxelìri afkew, ngaru irayo seiyi  :)
To be even more precise ;) it's stxeliri because the base word is stxeli ;)
Really, sorry for confusing  :(
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Sireayä mokri

I've been waiting for the confirmation on this for quite a while. Irayo!
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