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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2010, 07:16:22 pm »
Tewti! Txantsan! Ke lu oer aylì'u, fìfmawn wou oeru ;) Irayo seiyi oe ngaru, ma Prrton, sì karyur awngeyä ::)

Ngian lu oer tìpawm:

«Lam oer, _____» vs. «Lam oer fwa _____»

K. Paul used «lam oer, _____________» to me in a note. I had never seen this without «fwa», so I asked him...

Is there anything wrong with «lam oer» taking «fwa» to link it to “whatever seems...”?


Quote from: K. Pawl
No, that’s fine.

   Lam oer fwa po lu kanu nìtxan. OR Lam oer, po lu kanu nìtxan.

   My thinking here is that over time, lam oer could have evolved into a kind of adverbial, almost like “seemingly,” just as sìlpey oe can have the force of “hopefully.”

Srake tsun fko pivlltxe tengfya:

fpìl oe, po lu kanu nìtxan (tup san fpìl oel futa po lu kanu nìtxan sìk)
tsunslu, po lu kanu nìtxan (tup san tsunslu fwa po lu kanu nìtxan sìk)?

Ngeyä mesìpawm lu txantsan slä zene Karyur piveng. Ke omum oe.

Kxawm lìyatsu lahea sìpawm nìteng, ha latsu sìltsan fwa fko pey nì'it fte tsivun sivutx frafnetìpawmit ulte 'awsiteng por fpive'.

Tsun tivam, srak?
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2010, 07:22:09 pm »
Lam oer, tsun fko fìfya pivlltxe. Slä nìngay, zene awnga pivey Karyuä tì'eyngit fìtxeleri ;)

Kxawm lìyatsu lahea sìpawm nìteng, ha latsu sìltsan fwa fko pey nì'it fte tsivun sivutx frafnetìpawmit ulte 'awsiteng por fpive'.

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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2010, 07:26:26 pm »
Nawma Eywa!!

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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2010, 07:47:17 pm »
Holy hell, ma Prrton :o  I go away for a little over a day, and come back to this.  Good grief, even if i ignore the time stuff for now, this is gonna take me a while to digest.

This is me thanking you, btw, in case you couldn't tell  ;)
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2010, 08:22:02 pm »
Ma Prrton, this is HUGE.



Thanks for posting this. I am freaking out. so exciting...I was right about many things here. I was thinking earlier about tsawa tsata tsaria and i was right about tsari mllte oe, and whatnot...

Holy crap.

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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2010, 11:29:08 pm »
Man, Taronyu really has his work cut out for him, doesn't he?
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2010, 02:38:32 am »
not everyone knows how to make it...

How do you?
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2010, 05:02:04 am »
Hey Prrton,

I assume these are all Frommerian, but that was only implied for the sre-maw time-of-day words.

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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2010, 05:38:25 am »
the "Numbers take nouns in the SINGULAR." isn't actually news. Haven't we been doing that for a long time now? ...or is this some kind of confirmation.

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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2010, 06:14:02 am »
the "Numbers take nouns in the SINGULAR." isn't actually news. Haven't we been doing that for a long time now? ...or is this some kind of confirmation.

I think it's just a confirmation.
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2010, 06:51:16 am »
Lu tìpawm kop.

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Numbers take nouns in the SINGULAR.

Slä txo oel sar lì'ut a san pxay sìk srak? Zene fko pivlltxe san pxaya srr sìk fu san pxaya trr sìk srak?
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2010, 07:52:58 am »
Slä txo oel sar lì'ut a san pxay sìk srak? Zene fko pivlltxe san pxaya srr sìk fu san pxaya trr sìk srak?

Pxaya srr sìk. Lu faysìkenong ta Pawl:

Lu awngar aytele apxay a teri sa'u pivlltxe

Oeru lu eylan apxay

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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2010, 07:54:57 am »
Tam, irayo nìtxan. Ke amomun oel fìmesìkenongit ::)
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2010, 12:49:13 pm »
not everyone knows how to make it...

How do you?

I'm on a French CSA keyboard so I can just type alt_gr + ;
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2010, 01:12:04 pm »
Compose, o, o on X-based systems (most Linux distributions for example) with. compose key enabled.

And it exists in Any Soft Keyboard for Android: °
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2010, 01:13:03 pm »
AHH!! im soo EXCITED!!!! now i can learn something about the periods of day!!! ah, the excitement! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2010, 01:36:20 pm »
Compose, o, o on X-based systems (most Linux distributions for example) with. compose key enabled.

Extract this file and put into /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols and restart X :) Then for º press RightAlt + o. Also:

ì = RAlt + i
Ì = Shift + RAlt + i
ä = RAlt + a
Ä = Shift + RAlt + a


Sorry for offtop ::)
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2010, 01:47:31 pm »
not everyone knows how to make it...

How do you?

I'm on a French CSA keyboard so I can just type alt_gr + ;

Doesn't work on my UK keyboard, other than vowels (which get an acute accent), the only keys that have characters made with alt gr are ` which goes to ¦ and 4 which goes to €.
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2010, 02:15:21 pm »
not everyone knows how to make it...

How do you?

I'm on a French CSA keyboard so I can just type alt_gr + ;

Doesn't work on my UK keyboard, other than vowels (which get an acute accent), the only keys that have characters made with alt gr are ` which goes to ¦ and 4 which goes to €.

I don't know how to do it on a English UK configuration. The only thing I can suggest you is to try every single key match you can using the right alt, right control and shift. There is also a good chance that this key is simply not on your keyboard...
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Re: Txe'lanit Hivawl...
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2010, 03:02:03 pm »
K. Pawl supports these abbreviations in writing:

   º12:17 R
   KxT
   º2:36 H
   º4:55 K
   º10:36 T
   KxTx


[…]

Using «mllte» in agreement with others about specific topics

[…]
   Oe hu sempul mllte tsara txampay lìm nìhawng fte trray fmivi sivop tengkrr a trr a’aw ftem.

I was wondering why it is not Tx for txon since it is Kx(am)Tx(on) and Kx(am)T(rr)? Going from that you could misunderstand T as trr

Second quote is just a minor typo that I noticed. ;)

 

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