Dict-na'vi.com report

[Wllìm]

If someone wants to see the original list, it is still available in the Web Archive.

[Tìtstewan]

If someone wants to see the original list, it is still available in the Web Archive.

The new one on wikibooks has been reworked. that list is also there:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Na%27vi/Na%27vi%E2%80%93English_dictionary/glottal_series#.E2.80.99

Edit:
It is this one:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Na%27vi/Na%27vi%E2%80%93English_dictionary
Ove have to click at the letters to get the Na'vi word lists.

[Vawmataw]

I was looking there for some examples with the verb kaltxì si (for some reasons). This example showed up:

za'u kaltxì si ko!    Come and say hello!

I doubt about the correctness of the sentence. Must we add the infix iv to the main verb when ko is in a sentence?

[Tìtstewan]

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I see what you did here

By Pawl:

By the way, if anyone lives in or close to Tulsa, Oklahoma and is free the evening of Thursday, October 7, I'm speaking at the Oklahoma Conference in the Humanities, and it's open to the public free of charge. Za'u kaltxì si ko! (If you're wondering about that structure: Two verbs back-to-back without a conjunction indicates that they're performed in sequence: come and (then) say hello.)

[Vawmataw]

ok. That's interesting.
Sorry for reporting correct sentences.

[Tirea Aean]

one more example would be:

Li ko.
'Well, get to it, then.' OR 'Let's get on it.'

mainly because there's no verb.

So it looks like iv is not required but is very often put, just because. Just like in commands.

[Tirea Aean]

Uncountable nouns such as naer and fmawn still contain this on the right hand side:


me·naer   DU   dual / dual numbers
pxe·naer   TRI   trial / trial number
ay·naer   PL   plural
fì·naer   DEM   these {noun} (singular)
fay·naer   DEM PL   these {noun plural}
tsa·naer   DEM   that {noun} (singular)
tsay·naer   DEM PL   those {noun] (plural)

[Plumps]

but ... but ... but it is countable confirmation here

syuve, though, is not but I added the note "uncountable" – I'll have to speak with Tukan whether we can find a solution for this.

[Tirea Aean]

but ... but ... but it is countable confirmation here

syuve, though, is not but I added the note "uncountable" – I'll have to speak with Tukan whether we can find a solution for this.

Oh. I could swear that naer was not countable, but looks like I got it confused.
But yeah. I'd probably handle this the same way you guys do for ofp/nfp? Is that possible?

[Plumps]

But yeah. I'd probably handle this the same way you guys do for ofp/nfp? Is that possible?

By groups ... interesting idea. Definitely something to think about. We'll nevertheless have to get rid of the plural chart. I'll talk to Tukan soon.

[Tìtstewan]

Ma Tirea, your report is not the only weird thing. I reported this interesting stuff.

ayVitrayä Ramunong: [aj.vit."Ra.jæ Ra."mu.noN] JC prop.n.Well of Souls (c.w. from vitra soul and ramunong well) ^proper name + geogr btw. "Ayram Alusìng" should be also a "proper name", too. ---- affix examples me·ayram alusìng    DU    dual / dual numbers pxe·ayram alusìng    TRI    trial / trial number ay·ayram alusìng    PL    plural fì·ayram alusìng    DEM    these {noun} (singular) fay·ayram alusìng    DEM PL    these {noun plural} tsa·yram alusìng    DEM    that {noun} (singular) tsay·ayram alusìng    DEM PL    those {noun] (plural) I know, it's by the software but it's somehow funny. Same also for the names: affix examples me·rai'uk    DU    dual / dual numbers pxe·rai'uk    TRI    trial / trial number ay·rai'uk    PL    plural fì·rai'uk    DEM    these {noun} (singular) fay·rai'uk    DEM PL    these {noun plural} tsa·rai'uk    DEM    that {noun} (singular) tsay·rai'uk    DEM PL    those {noun] (plural) Those clones of Rai'uks Plus a little typo: ] instead } (Krümelkramerisch, ich weiß xD)

[Plumps]

Noted. It gets on the list of things to do.

[Vawmataw]

Now, this is a good report.
So I read Karyu Pawl's article: http://naviteri.org/2014/05/mipa-ayliu-mipa-aysafpil-new-words-new-ideas/

As with ätxäle si, 'request', we use tsnì with mowar si to introduce a subordinate clause—that is, 'advise X to do Y.'

This is not mentioned in any dictionary. Why?

[Tirea Aean]

Now, this is a good report.
So I read Karyu Pawl's article: http://naviteri.org/2014/05/mipa-ayliu-mipa-aysafpil-new-words-new-ideas/

As with ätxäle si, 'request', we use tsnì with mowar si to introduce a subordinate clause—that is, 'advise X to do Y.'

This is not mentioned in any dictionary. Why?

It's missing in the Eana Eltu Dictionary too. *goes there to report this as well* Nice catch!

[Vawmataw]

Fì'uri tut?
http://dict-navi.com/en/dictionary/term/2846/?search_term=tears

[Vawmataw]

The pronounciation of the new words fpomtokxnga' and kefpomtokxnga') is mistaken. [(kɛ.)fpom.ˈtokʼ.ŋa] is incorrect.
From Karyu Pawl:

A note on pronunciation: When an ejective is immediately followed by a consonant, it can be hard to pronounce. In many such cases it's simply pronounced as a "regular" stop, although there's no change in the writing. So in particular,

__pxm__  –>   __pm__

__txn__     –>   __tn__

__kxng__  –>   __kng__

[Tìtstewan]

When an ejective is immediately followed by a consonant, it can be hard to pronounce. In many such cases it's simply pronounced as a "regular" stop, although there's no change in the writing.

can - not must, have to
many - but not all

And this:

fpomtokxnga' (adj. nfp, fpom.TOKX.nga') 'healthful (physically)' kefpomtokxnga' (adj. nfp, ke.fpom.TOKX.nga') 'unhealthful (physically)'

[Vawmataw]

Hmmmm... Did you listen to the audio?
Why would he say that if the pronounciation doesn't change in this case?

[Tìtstewan]

Yes, but it is the same case like other words with different pronouciation.
fewtusok - [ˈfɛw.tu.sok] but pronounced as ['fɛw.tsok]
yayayrnga' - [ja.ˈjajɾ.ŋaʔ] but [ja.ˈjaj.ŋaʔ]
http://forum.learnnavi.org/beginners/is-a-mini-dictionary-of-all-short-form-and-colloqual-words-of-navi-desirable/

[Vawmataw]

So, do I pollute the thread with this report or not?