Dict-na'vi.com report

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EyeOfPython

Sure, that makes sense. Still, the real exact match should be at the top, in my humble opinion.
If I make errors, don't hesitate to correct me.

Plumps

Quote from: EyeOfPython on April 17, 2015, 10:57:03 AM
Ma Plumps,

Okay good to know that I was of help :)

Sure, with such a project little errors are to be expected. It's always good to have another pair of eyes ;)


Quote from: EyeOfPython on April 17, 2015, 10:57:03 AM
I was a bit confused on another thing, though.
When I enter "pey" normally, then it is, as expected, the top result, with "pxey" at place two, and others following. Reasonable for me. However, if I check "only exact match" then "pxey" becomes #1 and "pey" at place two. Unfortunatly, with "pay", there is always first "pxay" and then "pay", independent of "only exact match". This behaviour seems a bit odd to me...  ???

However, once again, it's nothing to be seriously worried about. If someone wants to deal with the scoring algorithm, then have fun.
Probably the "error" is that ejectives are treated exactly the same as their non-ejective counterparts (with seems a little odd to me as well  :-\ )

Quote from: EyeOfPython on April 17, 2015, 11:13:52 AM
Sure, that makes sense. Still, the real exact match should be at the top, in my humble opinion.

That is indeed a bit strange. Unfortunately I'm not that knowledgable concerning the deep programming of how to get this work. You would have to talk to Tukan about that if there is a solution to give the exact match when that button is active.

Eana Unil

Ätxäle si oe pivawm... Could you implement the (syllable) stress (in Na'vi words) somehow, some time?

Tìtstewan

Isn't there already one? ???
Example:
[æ.ˈtʼæ.lɛ]
The red-marked sign marks the stressed syllable.

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Eana Unil

I don't see any red or blue or whatever else color on the (results) page ???

Tìtstewan

I just marked it with these colors in this example to show that the words are already marked by that "dot", of course. :)
- the red dot shows the stressed syllable (blue).

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Eana Unil

TOLEL!!! hrh.... irayo....  :-X :-[

Vawmataw

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EyeOfPython

Kaltxì again, found more stress problemerinos (again, list definitely incomplete):

lew si with ˈlew si
Tsyungwen with tsyung.wen (no stress at all, but that's probably wanted)
zup with ˈzup
txal with ˈtxal
txan with ˈtxan
txa' with ˈtxa'
tsìk with ˈtsìk
wo with ˈwo
txen with ˈtxen
txep with ˈtxep
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Plumps

It helps a lot! :)
Thank you so much. Corrected.
Ture Tsyungwen was left out deliberately because no stress mark was given.

EyeOfPython

Yes I figured that, because no other loan words that represent languages have stress. However, nìTsyungwen is stressed in the NaviDictionary.pdf, so I thought I could add that^^
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Tìtstewan

Hmm, isn't the stress of the original word also used for the Na'vi loadword?
like:
[ɛ.u.ˈɾo.pa] - [ɔɪ̯ˈʀoːpa]
[ˈto.i.͡tslan] - [ˈdɔɪ̯ʧlant]
:-\

Btw, "[swɛ.ɾi.jɛ]" miss the stress too.

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Tstewa Ikrantsyìp

On the online Na'vi dictionairy, I was looking up diferent kinds of weather for my Na'vi handbook.
in the middle of the list for different kinds of weather was:

'leafy' or in Na'vi 'Lerìk'

I don't think 'leafy' is a kind of weather, I've never heard the weather been described as 'leafy' or 'lerìk'
I don't know whether this was an error, but a friend advised I report it.
so... yeah. I'm reporting it.
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Kame Ayyo’koti

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on July 10, 2015, 12:16:44 AM
I don't think 'leafy' is a kind of weather, I've never heard the weather been described as 'leafy' or 'lerìk'

Maybe it refers to a windy day in autumn?

Lolu trr lerìk mì na'rìng. ?

Or even better: zìsìkrr lerìk :P
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Tìtstewan

Eltur tìtxen si. The link to its source doesn't work, but I used the search engine and sound it here:
http://whyisthisnight.com/addl-more.html#na%27vi

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Fìtxon na ton alahe nìwotx pelun ke lu teng?
this-night like nights other all why not is same
Tonìri alahe, awngal yom hametsìt, yom matsat, ke tsranten;
fìtxon yom matsat nì'aw.

as-for-nights other we eat hametz eat matzah not matter
this-night eat matzah only
Tonìri alahe, awngal yom fkxenti lerìk nìwotx;
fìtxon yom sat a lu syä'ä nì'aw.

as-for-nights other we eat vegetable-food leafy all
this-night eat those that are bitter only
Tonìri alahe, awnga ke yemfpay si keng 'awlo;
fìtxon yemfpay si melo.

as-for-nights other we not dipping do even once
this-night dipping do twice
Tonìri alahe, awngal yom wutsot tengkrr hereyn nìpxim,
tengkrr teruvon, ke tsranten;   fìtxon yom tengkrr teruvon.

as-for-nights other we eat meal while sitting erect
while leaning not matter         this-night eat while leaning
Tonìri alahe, awngal yom wutsot nìfya'o letrrtrr;
fìtxon yom nì'eoio.

as-for-nights other we eat meal in-manner ordinary
this-night eat ceremoniously


[audio=http://whyisthisnight.com/na%27vi.mp3]Audio recited by Na'vi's creator[/audio]
Na'vi was created by Dr Frommer for the lovely blue aliens in the 2009 movie, Avatar. It is intended to sound both alien and pleasant. Words that needed to be added to the lexicon for a Na'vi seder were:     hametsì: 'hametz';     matsa: 'matzah';     yemfpay: 'dipping, immersion';     fkxen: 'food of vegetable (as opposed to animal) origin';     pxim: 'erect, straight up and down';     tuvon: 'to lean';     and 'eoio: 'ceremonious'.




So, lerìk was used here:
Tonìri alahe, awngal yom fkxenti lerìk nìwotx;
fìtxon yom sat a lu syä'ä nì'aw.

as-for-nights other we eat vegetable-food leafy all
this-night eat those that are bitter only


I doupt this has something to do with weather.

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Tirea Aean

Quote from: Tìtstewan on July 10, 2015, 12:39:41 AM
Eltur tìtxen si. The link to its source doesn't work, but I used the search engine and sound it here:
http://whyisthisnight.com/addl-more.html#na%27vi
[...]
I doupt this has something to do with weather.

I got same results. Nothing weather-related for this word anywhere, unlike the rest of them.


Quote from: Kame Ayyo'koti on July 10, 2015, 12:36:15 AM
Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on July 10, 2015, 12:16:44 AM
I don't think 'leafy' is a kind of weather, I've never heard the weather been described as 'leafy' or 'lerìk'

Maybe it refers to a windy day in autumn?

Lolu trr lerìk mì na'rìng. ?

Or even better: zìsìkrr lerìk :P

Creative thoughts for saves though! :D

Plumps

:-X Krro fko tìkxey si nì'aw...

Zoslolu.

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Blue Elf

Quote from: Tìtstewan on July 10, 2015, 12:39:41 AM
So, lerìk was used here:
Tonìri alahe, awngal yom fkxenti lerìk nìwotx;
fìtxon yom sat a lu syä'ä nì'aw.

as-for-nights other we eat vegetable-food leafy all
this-night eat those that are bitter only

As I reaqd it, it sounds like eating of fkxen lerìk - some salad or so. Leafy vegetable food.
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
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Tirea Aean

Quote from: Blue Elf on July 11, 2015, 07:49:50 AM
As I reaqd it, it sounds like eating of fkxen lerìk - some salad or so. Leafy vegetable food.

Srane, and I think this is the only official use of lerìk I was able to find.