Ekipìtä Eyktan (The Prince of Egypt)

[Stranger Come Knocking]

Aw c'mon bro dont bust your face in. 

It's all good right?

Some names, like the gods or the minor characters don't bother me too much.  But...but...Ramses and Egypt?!  (All right, fine, so I missed the "no-end-s" lesson) Egypt is, quite literally, on every bloody page!

Beh.  I'm complaining.  I'll get on that, but I would like to get the basic grammar down before fussing over a few words.

| 'Oma | Don't think I don't appreciate your corrections.  Better now than after a thousand people have read it and are studying from it. hrh

| Tirea | Is "Hebrew" ever mentioned in the Bible, as a people, or would I use "Israelite" or how would I go about that?

"Things cannot be as they were."
"I see no reason why not."
"You know I am a Hebrew.  And the God of the Hebrews came to me."
"What?"
"He commands you let His people go."

| Alyara | I like your words for "snake" and "cobra"   Now how to work them into "snake-charmer"?
"We present to you this delicate desert flower."
*bites*
"More like desert cobra!"
"Not much of a snake-charmer are you?" lolz
---
"Hotep!  Hoy!  Give this...snake-charmer...our answer."

[Tirea Aean]

True true.. cant you just do a quick and easy search-ReplaceAll operation?


in the KJV "Hebrews" (besides the name of the Book) is mentioned roughly 21 times across both Testaments.

[Stranger Come Knocking]

True true.. cant you just do a quick and easy search-ReplaceAll operation?

They're all separate image files.  All...259...of them... @.@

in the KJV "Hebrews" (besides the name of the Book) is mentioned roughly 21 times across both Testaments.

*blink* Well, isn't that nice?  So then, I don't suppose you or Ayfalulukan has come up with the official Na'vi approximation?

[Alyara Arati]

yawnetu ioangä hinamluke

Also, sorry if I messed you up with the names.  I don't actually know which phonemes are common in Hebrew or Egyptian.  And I've always flown in the face of convention with th -> t, since I don't always believe it fits as well as, say, s in the name.  Bad me.

[Stranger Come Knocking]

yawnetu ioangä hinamluke

Hehehe.  Maybe, but I'm pretty sure "yawne" and "charmer" are two different ideas.

Also, sorry if I messed you up with the names.  I don't actually know which phonemes are common in Hebrew or Egyptian.

NO WAY!  Neither am I!  We should start a club or something!

And I've always flown in the face of convention with th -> t, since I don't always believe it fits as well as, say, s in the name.  Bad me.

Again, name spelling preferences.  So confusing. ><

[Alyara Arati]

Okay, how about tskxekengtu ioangä hinamluke

[Tirea Aean]

True true.. cant you just do a quick and easy search-ReplaceAll operation?

They're all separate image files.  All...259...of them... @.@

Why in EYWA'EVENG would you do it like that? O______________O

If I were you, i would put everything in plain text and tag which line goes to which person in which picture,  then see if the text needs to be edited at all before committing it to an image file. Then you really COULD do a search-ReplaceAll if you needed to, BEFORE you create the images.

[Stranger Come Knocking]

Okay, how about tskxekengtu ioangä hinamluke

*frìp*
"Nì'ul na *desert* txumnga'a swirä hinamluke."
"Nga ke lu tskxekengtu ianogä hinamluke, srak?"

True true.. cant you just do a quick and easy search-ReplaceAll operation?

They're all separate image files.  All...259...of them... @.@

Why in EYWA'EVENG would you do it like that? O______________O

If I were you, i would put everything in plain text and tag which line goes to which person in which picture,  then see if the text needs to be edited at all before committing it to an image file. Then you really COULD do a search-ReplaceAll if you needed to, BEFORE you create the images.

I'm a web programmer, not a computer programmer. o_o Besides, I already have all the boxes and the colors and everything, and the program I use doesn't take kindly to copy-and-paste from a different program.  They're layered images anyway, so it's not like I have to re-create the entire page, just a little erase job and re-type.

Is there an agreed-upon word for Hebrew?

[Tirea Aean]

Ohh. I see.

You mean translate the Hebrew word, or the Greek or the English?

[Stranger Come Knocking]

Ohh. I see.

You mean translate the Hebrew word, or the Greek or the English?

*sorry luffs, was off yesterday*

I don't care, just one that works and can be reused. o_0

[Stranger Come Knocking]

Egypt = Ekiptì/Etsiptì

Ä isn't prevalent in Hebrew/Egyptian, so I highly recommend against it.  Same with Ì (it is only present to break up illegal consonant clusters).  Also, th → t normally, not s.

Wait, so if ì is used really only to break up illegal clusters and t is acceptable to end a syllable, what's wrong with Ekipìt?

Ekiptìä Eyktan <---

['Oma Tirea]

Egypt = Ekiptì/Etsiptì

Ä isn't prevalent in Hebrew/Egyptian, so I highly recommend against it.  Same with Ì (it is only present to break up illegal consonant clusters).  Also, th → t normally, not s.

Wait, so if ì is used really only to break up illegal clusters and t is acceptable to end a syllable, what's wrong with Ekipìt?

Nothing, although it seems a little strange, since normally with 2-consonant consonant clusters at the end an ì is added at the end instead of in between.  My initial impression with Ekipìt wasn't quite the same as "Egypt."

[Tirea Aean]

I suppose he was going for a "closer to Egypt as pronounced in US English" translation.

I think by his recommendation either

Ekiptä eyktan <cf. naviteri.org "Toktor Kìreysì [...] Toktor Kìreysä">

or

Etsiptä eyktan

['Oma Tirea]

Queried in spuwina kìng (a kawtul tsati nìn nìlam).

Anyway, the spelling with ts is closer to English, but the k spelling should be fine

Interesting note: The spelling of this name was once Ægypt, and I considered "Aekiptì/Aykiptì" for a possible spelling.

[Stranger Come Knocking]

Nothing, although it seems a little strange, since normally with 2-consonant consonant clusters at the end an ì is added at the end instead of in between.  My initial impression with Ekipìt wasn't quite the same as "Egypt."

I suppose he was going for a "closer to Egypt as pronounced in US English" translation.

I think by his recommendation either

Ekiptä eyktan <cf. naviteri.org "Toktor Kìreysì [...] Toktor Kìreysä">

or

Etsiptä eyktan

Ooooohhhh.  Well, why didn't you say so? Sorry for being so argumentative, ma 'Oma.  But since there really isn't anything wrong with Ekipìt, I think I'll keep it as is.

Although, I should probably get on changing the title for Chapter 2... o_o

[Stranger Come Knocking]

Alrighty then...For reasons explained on the first page second post, I have taken down the individual images to get feedback on the lines.  I figure some of the difficulty may come simply from having empty boxes and, if you haven't seen the movie, then they mean nothing.  Anyway, now begins a page-by-page text-discussion. (English text has not been altered.)

Spoiler: Pages 1 & 2

Images Ke lì'u Mud! Ke lì'u Sand! Pay! Water! Ke lì'u Straw! Nìwin! Faster! Ke lì'u Mud! Kxeltek!          And lift! Ke lì'u Sand!

Za'ärìp payit! And pull in water! Ulte kxeltek... And raise up... Ke lì'u Straw! Nìwin! FASTER! Ke'u The sting of the whip on my shoulder... Ke'u With the salt of my sweat on my brow. Ma Yawey, 'elohim mì sìkxayl... Elohim, God on high... Nga tsun stivawm ngeyä pongu tsngawvìk? Can You hear your people cry?

If English fails to yield the desired words/effect/whatever, I would like to resort to the Hebrew movie.

The Prince of Egypt- Deliver Us [Hebrew subs + translation]