RENAMED: Website Users Manual

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I could provide advice or a tip to be included in the handbook
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I would benefit from an idea such as this.
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Tirea Aean

Quote from: Nyx on October 08, 2010, 03:04:03 PM
Quote from: überdoodlet on October 06, 2010, 05:10:33 PM
Would everyone be interested in this? Would anyone know what kind of format it would be in?
Sounds like a good idea to me. As for format, maybe it should be a .pdf, especially if there is a lot of info. That way you can have a table of contents and it wouldn't be a wall of text.

plus if it was PDF, it is searchable. ;D

Quote from: überdoodlet on October 07, 2010, 09:07:23 PM

Spirit blue, do you have anything to add or refine on this raw idea? Being a mod, do you have any idea of how to get something like this started?

Uh so from waht i understand, you want a little doc covering the hotspots to find certain Often sought after info, plus where to find which kinds of topics, forum rules and such...

That actually sounds good. I suppose I can let ideas gather and refine in here until it is ready to be implemented, and then I can maybe mention it to the mods or something so that it can be available on the main site or whatever.

Maria TunVrrtep

Quote from: Spirit Blue on October 08, 2010, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: Nyx on October 08, 2010, 03:04:03 PM
Quote from: überdoodlet on October 06, 2010, 05:10:33 PM
Would everyone be interested in this? Would anyone know what kind of format it would be in?
Sounds like a good idea to me. As for format, maybe it should be a .pdf, especially if there is a lot of info. That way you can have a table of contents and it wouldn't be a wall of text.

plus if it was PDF, it is searchable. ;D

Quote from: überdoodlet on October 07, 2010, 09:07:23 PM

Spirit blue, do you have anything to add or refine on this raw idea? Being a mod, do you have any idea of how to get something like this started?

Uh so from waht i understand, you want a little doc covering the hotspots to find certain Often sought after info, plus where to find which kinds of topics, forum rules and such...

That actually sounds good. I suppose I can let ideas gather and refine in here until it is ready to be implemented, and then I can maybe mention it to the mods or something so that it can be available on the main site or whatever.

I really think it's a great idea.  I sometimes find it difficult to figure out where something is or how to do something.

ta TunVrrtep
"Ke'u ke lu law a krr frakem tsunslu." -
    Margaret Drabble
("When nothing is sure, everything is possible.")



Tirea Aean

Quote from: TunVrrtep on October 08, 2010, 04:31:22 PM


I really think it's a great idea.  I sometimes find it difficult to figure out where something is or how to do something.

ta TunVrrtep

I agree and notice this can be an issue. I'll see what I can do when I have more time. :)

überdoodlet

So! Thus it begins.
As of now, this three can be used to discuss topics you would like to see, and what you could add to.

SB, yes, theoretically, it would be as you described plus maybe a more informal version of "rules", and a compiled user advice area. It would be first started off of ideas from users, veterans, mods, anyone, and compiled into one.

I'm glad I had this idea!

Tirea Aean

Quote from: überdoodlet on October 08, 2010, 08:06:39 PM
So! Thus it begins.
As of now, this three can be used to discuss topics you would like to see, and what you could add to.

SB, yes, theoretically, it would be as you described plus maybe a more informal version of "rules", and a compiled user advice area. It would be first started off of ideas from users, veterans, mods, anyone, and compiled into one.

I'm glad I had this idea!

well, it IS a good idea that I think many newcomers and relatively new people could use. perhaps even I could find it interesting as I have always been heavily biased toward only going to the Learn Na'vi (the language part) of the forum. I know there is some epic stuff out there

überdoodlet

So, more distribution towards the physical working of the site instead of it being in the informational and learning part...
Good idea.

Tirea Aean

I was stating that perhaps it could have sort of a time-saving directory. and maybe even i could use it to find topics of discussion that I like outside the Na'vi language learning boards.

The only reason I think there is a point to a directory type thing is that there are Many boards with child boards and many topics to be discovered because this forum has grown a lot. but then again, I dont think that the organization of the forum is that bad that one cannot find anything. there is also the search function.


I like threads like the one project thread that compiles links to all the major recent projects. perhaps a link to such threads would be useful for this directory.

I like the idea of a compilation of tips and tricks, things about SMF that people new to forums wouldn't know and might find useful.

SO for the formatting of this:

will it be PDF, any other type of document, a web page?

überdoodlet

It could be any format you listed or any format in general. I was mabye thinking of a Wikia free wiki, so that many could collaborate, but I could really be any format that gets the job done right.

Maria TunVrrtep

Personally I think that a PDF is the best idea.  Perhaps a page instead.  But a page would be harder to maintain.  Someone would have to have access to change it and actually be ABLE to change it.  I know it's been a while since I did any coding like that. 

with a PDF you could just upload a new PDF when you have a change.

I'm not sure that a wiki is really a good idea.  You don't want people putting stuff up there that is wrong. 

ta TunVrrtep
"Ke'u ke lu law a krr frakem tsunslu." -
    Margaret Drabble
("When nothing is sure, everything is possible.")



überdoodlet

Yeah, that's what I thought too...
False information is bad, anyway.

Tirea Aean

PDF it is.

So who wants to get a start on this?

I actually have to finish this lab report by Tuesday, and I am just now starting....O.O

Maria TunVrrtep

Well if everyone wants to get me stuff I can compile it. 
It will take me a couple of days once I have everything.
I don't have a program to save it as a PDF though. 
Does anyone know a good free one that won't leave a watermark on the file?
ta TunVrrtep
"Ke'u ke lu law a krr frakem tsunslu." -
    Margaret Drabble
("When nothing is sure, everything is possible.")



'eylan na'viyä

you could use a pdf printer driver. there are many out there and i think also some free ones.

überdoodlet

Now that we know format, what are some categories that you all could benefit from or give info for?

Maria TunVrrtep

Quote from: TunVrrtep on October 10, 2010, 07:08:22 PM
Well if everyone wants to get me stuff I can compile it. 
It will take me a couple of days once I have everything.
I don't have a program to save it as a PDF though. 
Does anyone know a good free one that won't leave a watermark on the file?
ta TunVrrtep

Ok.  I just found a PDF writer that doesn't put a watermark on the file. 

Now all I need is stuff to put in it.

Do you want me to send it to you when I'm done, Tirea Aean?

ta TunVrrtep
"Ke'u ke lu law a krr frakem tsunslu." -
    Margaret Drabble
("When nothing is sure, everything is possible.")



überdoodlet

To get a start, I'll try to list a couple categories.
It would be cool to make this like a less generic, more informational version of the help tab.

In addition to general "mechanics" and tips, maybe some tricky BBCode could be listed, general posting and topic making tips, do's/don't's, navigation tips, etc. Anyone else?

Tirea Aean

Quote from: TunVrrtep on October 10, 2010, 07:42:12 PM
Quote from: TunVrrtep on October 10, 2010, 07:08:22 PM
Well if everyone wants to get me stuff I can compile it. 
It will take me a couple of days once I have everything.
I don't have a program to save it as a PDF though. 
Does anyone know a good free one that won't leave a watermark on the file?
ta TunVrrtep

Ok.  I just found a PDF writer that doesn't put a watermark on the file. 

Now all I need is stuff to put in it.

Do you want me to send it to you when I'm done, Tirea Aean?

ta TunVrrtep

totally. that will be fine. when its done, i can MAYBE even see if it can haz a nice little kelku on the LN.org main site. ;)

Maria TunVrrtep

Oooooooooo!!

I'm just glad there's something I can do to help.  I'm a great typist and I can put stuff like this together in no time.  (Hell you should see some of the projects I've put together in a day for college.)

I do have a few ideas.  But I know I won't be the only contributor.  I really think the idea of a Handbook By Users, For Users is a great idea. 

I also think it should have links to Navitiri.org and whatever other websites you guys can think of.  Anything that can help the Newbies is a good thing.

ta TunVrrtep
"Ke'u ke lu law a krr frakem tsunslu." -
    Margaret Drabble
("When nothing is sure, everything is possible.")



Tirea Aean


Maria TunVrrtep

Quote from: Tirea Aean on October 10, 2010, 06:37:31 PM
PDF it is.

So who wants to get a start on this?

I actually have to finish this lab report by Tuesday, and I am just now starting....O.O

BTW, Tirea, I have a group project due on Tuesday and I have a quiz that I thought was supposed to be last week on Tuesday.  
I'm going to be doing this in my copious spare time between 3 jobs (yes I actually have 4 but one is my business and I can let that go when I want to), classes, dance lessons, taking care of my handicapped parents, trying to get some money out of a friend who owes me $310 and the various stupid stuff that comes up.

I don't sleep much.
"Ke'u ke lu law a krr frakem tsunslu." -
    Margaret Drabble
("When nothing is sure, everything is possible.")