Questions about Learn Na'vi the Easy Way booklet

[Kir`ti Aymungal]

Kaltxì ma aysmuk, ayngaru ly fpom srak?

It's been way too long since I last posted anything, or participated in anything. I apologize to those with whom I have not spoken.  Especially Lightna, because I promised them that I would start a Na'vi guild on WoW, and I never followed through.  I have been out because I had so much stress in my life to deal with.  Work, school, and constant drama at home.  I had stress wrapped around me like a choking scarf.  Thanks to my beloved's support, I have quit work and am now in his care.  Now, I have more time on my hands and I decided to delve back into studying Na'vi.

What my main question is this:  In the recent new Volume 1 of 8 series in Learn Na'vi, I started out the pages by doing the word search puzzles.  Which, by the way, help out so much.  I'm now able to spot a few words on my own, which is great.  I found that there are a few words that I just can't find to save my life.  I have looked and look, even left the puzzle off overnight, and I still can't find it!  I was hoping to see if anyone else had this issue or if anyone could help me find the words, because being the [perfectionist], I want to be able to complete each puzzle before I move.

Here are the words:
Na'vi Word Search # 1:  Ftawnemkrr and Tìng tseng.
Search as I might, I don't see any combinations of RR or R R [the way the puzzle is shaped].  Can't find any F's by a T, or even K by the RR.  Same thing with Tìng Tseng.  I did find the closest match, ting seng, but there is no ì beside it, and the S is missing the T.  Also, another word of note is utraltsyìp.  I see the word utraltsyì going down and then a P on the right of the ì, which confuses me because I thought all circled words are supposed to be left to right, or top to bottom.

Na'vi Word Search # 2: Tìtxur and Tìhawl.
These two I actually found, BUT I'm not sure if I just didn't look hard enough because these two are actually missing a ì in both words in the puzzle.

Are my eyes really that bad or is there something missing here?  I have attached two pictures, of the first and second puzzle, as well as highlighted [in blue of course] the suspect words.  You will notice in the second one I added the tick about the i with blue, that is because I did that also in pencil and in case you can't see it because the pictures are crappy, I highlighted those too.

Please help!

Irayo for all your help guys.  Eywa ayngahu,

Kir'ti

[Blue Elf]

Kaltxì ma Kir`ti Aymungal.
I cooperated on checking this workbook before final release and when I check my comments, I don't see anything about mistakes in the word searches... But I'm not completely sure if I tried to solve all of them, so there can be some minor mistakes. I plan to go again through the workbook to improve my knowledge, so give me some time, I'll let you know my results.

Anyway, I found predecessor of this workbook very usefull, and this one is surely good too.

['Oma Tirea]

WÌYÄH...

I thought KP would correct that, despite that my super-thorough feedback was a little late...

This is one reason I simply cannot promote the book.

[Kir`ti Aymungal]

I didn't mean to stick anybody's nose into this, I just wanted to point it out and was wondering if I was the only one who saw that.  I didn't think it was just my copy that printed out wrong, since PDF's are technically images. I went onto the website, redownloaded the file and checked it, and I still can't find any combination of 'le' or even 'ran' for letsranten.  I just think I'm going crazy.

In case of people reading this and can help, or want to know: these are the words I can't find.

Na'vi Word Search #1: FTAWNEMKRR ; TìNG TSENG [the closest match was ting seng, which feels like it should have an accented ì and a 't' by the 's' in seng]
Na'vi Word Search #2: FPìL ; TìSTI [found TISTI, no accented ì...]
Na'vi word Search #3: LETSRANTEN

That's it so far. If anyone would be kindly to point them out, that would be nice.  If not, we need to make sure that the book actually contains these words. A few of them I've had to add the accent to because otherwise, the word "doesn't" exist.

Just a thought.

Kir'ti

[Blue Elf]

Regarding Na'vi Word Search #1: I ended up the same way as you (although I was quite tired, so I'll try once more)
I think your menari are good, mistakes really exist. Ok, I'll send them to the author, but it is question if they will be corrected.
Anyway, thanks for reporting them.

[Kir`ti Aymungal]

No problem, but I'm glad that it wasn't just my menari!

Irayo!


Kir'ti

['Oma Tirea]

I think your menari are good, mistakes really exist. Ok, I'll send them to the author, but it is question if they will be corrected.

I doubt they will.  I spotted a lot of mistakes in the puzzles themselves, however KP didn't set any deadlines, and insisted it was too late for the book to be corrected.  I wonder if po even looked closely.

[Blue Elf]

Then it is good idea to compile list of mistakes and publish it here. I'm afraid some of my comments weren't taken into account too......

[Blue Elf]

Na'vi Word Search #2: FPìL ; TìSTI [found TISTI, no accented ì...]

Fpìl doesn't exist, a few words starting with tì- incorrectly starts with ti-: tìhawl, tìtxur, tìsti, hapxì. Tìftxey exist, but is in collision with tìsti, so it can't be used.
And as a bonus - is you search well, you can find some words not present in word list: zup, tung, som, pak, trr 

[Kir`ti Aymungal]

Kaltxì

That is true, I have seen some words that are not on the list.

I wonder, should I start a new thread titled Na'vi Book Errors to Fix?  Is that too pretentious and would I anger KP and anyone else who worked on the book?  I just wanted to make sure that someone didn't have the same OCD problem as I do and frantically searched for a word that didn't exist, or anything else.  I am very meticulous and I have acute attention to detail, so I can scour the book front to end and report what I see as I go.

If only this could get the attention of creators - should I PM them?

Irayo ma tsmukan,
Kir'ti

['Oma Tirea]

Kaltxì

That is true, I have seen some words that are not on the list.

I wonder, should I start a new thread titled Na'vi Book Errors to Fix?  Is that too pretentious and would I anger KP and anyone else who worked on the book?  I just wanted to make sure that someone didn't have the same OCD problem as I do and frantically searched for a word that didn't exist, or anything else.  I am very meticulous and I have acute attention to detail, so I can scour the book front to end and report what I see as I go.

If only this could get the attention of creators - should I PM them?

Irayo ma tsmukan,
Kir'ti

Great idea, but KP really should understand from what I gave to po.  It was incredibly detailed stuff, right down to every last puzzle.

[Blue Elf]

Kaltxì

That is true, I have seen some words that are not on the list.

I wonder, should I start a new thread titled Na'vi Book Errors to Fix?  Is that too pretentious and would I anger KP and anyone else who worked on the book?  I just wanted to make sure that someone didn't have the same OCD problem as I do and frantically searched for a word that didn't exist, or anything else.  I am very meticulous and I have acute attention to detail, so I can scour the book front to end and report what I see as I go.

If only this could get the attention of creators - should I PM them?

Irayo ma tsmukan,
Kir'ti

Definitely do both - create thread and send PM to KP. That workbook was created for us, and how it looks like depends heavily on us too. KP had an idea of creating whole serie of textbooks about Na'vi language and he asked here to help him. However he told me there was very weak response from our community, what made him sad (and me too) and work was stopped.
So, do that and if he see interest, I'm sure we can move along.
Eywa awngahu

[Kir`ti Aymungal]

Alright, thanks for the feedback! I have had a long period of being depressed due to work, but thanks to my boyfriend, I'm okay now, so I'm taking my studies seriously. It's really late now, but tomorrow morning I will make a new thread and start reporting.

Irayo, ma aysmuk

Kir'ti

P.S. The question, where should the thread be? Which forum section?

[Blue Elf]

I propose to use the same section as where this workbook is announced, I think it is learning resources section (check this). And good idea is to ask mod to sticky it.

['Oma Tirea]

I propose to use the same section as where this workbook is announced, I think it is learning resources section (check this). And good idea is to ask mod to sticky it.

Mllte oe.