Les Miserables

[Stranger Come Knocking]

Bit of a Les Mis nerd.  Since the whole thing is done in song, I thought I might try my hand.

Starting with my three favorite songs.  Okay, two.  Master of the House has too many missing words.  Everything is done from the 2012 movie.

Look Down (The Convicts)

Spoiler

Convict 1 Look down, look down Don't look 'em in the eye Convicts Look down, look down, You're here until you die Convict 2 No God above And Hell alone below Convicts Look down, look down, There's twenty years to go Convict 3 I've done no wrong! Sweet Jesus hear my prayer! Convicts Look down, look down, Sweet Jesus doesn't care Convict 4 I know she'll wait, I know that she'll be true! Convicts Look down, look down, They've all forgotten you Convict 5 When I get free Ya won't see me Here for dust! Convicts Look down, look down You'll always be a slave Look down, look down, You're standing in your grave Javert Retrieve the flag Now prisoner 24601 Your time is up And your parole's begun You know what that means Valjean Yes, it means I'm free Javert NO! For long to the left Of your itinerary, This badge of shame You'll show it until you die. It warns you're a dangerous man. Valjean I stole a loaf of bread! My sister's child was close to death And we were starving! Javert And you will starve again Unless you learn the meaning of the law. Valjean I know the meaning of these 19 years A slave of the law Javert Five years for what you did The rest because you tried to run Yes 24601 Valjean My name is Jean Valjean Javert And I am Javert Do not forget my name Do not forget me 24601 Convicts Look down, look down You will always be a slave Look down, look down You're standing in your grave.

(Convict 1) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Nìn rä'ä foyä aynari (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Nga tok fìtseng vaykrr nga terkup (Convict 2) Ke Yawey ta'em Ulte nì'aw Hell äo (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Lu mevol ayzìsìt tì'i'avay (Convict 3) Oe ke tìkxey soli Rutxe Yeysu, stivawm oeyä (prayer) (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Ngeyä Yeysu ke vewng (Convict 4) Oe omum a po payey Oe omum a po tayok tsatseng (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Fol tswola' ngat (Convict 5) Krr a oe lu ke yawnìm Ngal ke tsaye'a oet Fìtseng vaykrr kxitx (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Nga layu frakrr (a slave) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Nga kerllkxem nemfa ngeyä (grave) Zaver Zamunge (flag) Set (prisoner) mune-tsìng-pukap-kew-'aw Ngeyä krr lu hasey Ulte ngeyä (parole) sngolä'i Nga omum a tsakem ral Valzon Po ral a oe lu ke yawnìm Zaver Kehe ? ? ? Ngal wayìntxu pot vaykrr nga terkup Po (warns) a nga lu lehrrap tute Valzon Oel 'amaku (a loaf of bread) Oeyä tsmukeyä 'eveng lamu asim kxitx Pxoe 'armefu ohakx Zaver Ulte nga 'ayefu ohakx nìmun Vaykrr nga nume (law)ä ralit Valzon Oel omum fayzìsìtä ralit (A slave of the law) Zaver Mrr ayzìsìt fpi a nga kem sami Nì'ul alunta nga fmami tul Srane, ma mune-tsìng-pukap-kew-'aw Valzon Oe lu Zon Valzon. Zaver Ulte oe lu Zaver Tswa' rä'ä oeyä tstxo Tswa' rä'ä oet. Mune-tsìng-pukap-kew-'aw (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Nga layu frakrr (a slave) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Nga kerllkxem nemfa ngeyä (grave)

Do You Hear the People Sing?

Spoiler

Enjolras: Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men? It is the music of the people Who will not be slaves again! When the beating of your heart Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When tomorrow comes! Combeferre: Will you join in our crusade? Who will be strong and stand with me? Beyond the barricade Is there a world you long to see? Courfeyrac: Then join in the fight That will give you the right to be free! All: Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men? It is the music of the people Who will not be slaves again! When the beating of your heart Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When tomorrow comes! Feuilly: Will you give all you can give So that our banner may advance Some will fall and some will live Will you stand up and take your chance? The blood of the martyrs Will water the meadows of France! All: Do you hear the people sing! Singing the song of angry men? It is the music of the people Who will not be slaves again! When the beating of your heart Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When tomorrow comes!

Inzolrasì Ngal stawm sute rol? Rerol tìrolit letìsti suteyä Po lu pamtseo suteyä A ke layu (slaves) nìmun! Krr a ekong ngeyä txe'lanä Ngam si ekong ayau Lu tìrey alaksì sngä'i krr a trray za'u Kompefer ? Tupe layu seykxel ulte kayllkxem hu oe? ? Lu kifkey a ngal 'anla tse'a? Korfeyrasì Tsakrr ziva'u ne tìwusem A tayìng tìmwiät oeru lu ke yawnìm Frapo Ngal stawm sute rol? Rerol tìrolit letìsti suteyä Po lu pamtseo suteyä A ke layu (slaves) nìmun! Krr a ekong ngeyä txe'lanä Ngam si ekong ayau Lu tìrey alaksì sngä'i krr a trray za'u Fuley Ngal tayìng fra'ut a nga tsun tivìng ? Suteo rayey ulte suteo tayerkup Nga kayllkxem ulte (take a chance) Reypay (martyrs) ? Frapo Ngal stawm sute rol? Rerol tìrolit letìsti suteyä Po lu pamtseo suteyä A ke layu (slaves) nìmun! Krr a ekong ngeyä txe'lanä Ngam si ekong ayau Lu tìrey alaksì sngä'i krr a trray za'u

[Clarke]

I bet you can't do Stars.  
(I'm suspecting that the religious references will be really hard to translate. The Bible translation project ran into similar problems.)

BTW, in the Work Song, Javert's line is, "No! Follow to the letter your itinary; this badge of shame you'll show until you die."

Apart from that, it looks great. Have a Les Mis/Avatar joke:

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[Plumps]

First off, ma SCK, applause for this attempt!
You've done a great job. At first I thought you wanted to translate the novel and I thought, Good luck with that!

You have very good circumlocutions for our known problems with missing words but we can stretch some a bit further There are a few errors that I corrected and commented on below! I hope I can look over the second one soon.

Fa leioae atxukx frato

Look Down (The Convicts)

Convict 1 Look down, look down Don't look 'em in the eye Convicts Look down, look down, You're here until you die Convict 2 No God above And Hell alone below Convicts Look down, look down, There's twenty years to go Convict 3 I've done no wrong! Sweet Jesus hear my prayer! Convicts Look down, look down, Sweet Jesus doesn't care Convict 4 I know she'll wait, I know that she'll be true! Convicts Look down, look down, They've all forgotten you Convict 5 When I get free Ya won't see me Here for dust! Convicts Look down, look down You'll always be a slave Look down, look down, You're standing in your grave Javert Retrieve the flag Now prisoner 24601 Your time is up And your parole's begun You know what that means Valjean Yes, it means I'm free Javert NO! For long to the left Of your itinerary, This badge of shame You'll show it until you die. It warns you're a dangerous man. Valjean I stole a loaf of bread! My sister's child was close to death And we were starving! Javert And you will starve again Unless you learn the meaning of the law. Valjean I know the meaning of these 19 years A slave of the law Javert Five years for what you did The rest because you tried to run Yes 24601 Valjean My name is Jean Valjean Javert And I am Javert Do not forget my name Do not forget me 24601 Convicts Look down, look down You will always be a slave Look down, look down You're standing in your grave.

(Convict 1) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll rä'ä nìn feyä aynarit – unless for great emphasis, rä'ä always precedes the verb. There's also a reasoning for using the topical on 'their' because of inalienable possession. Nìn is transitive (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Ngal tok fìtsengit vaykrr (nga) terkup – tok is transitive, I think the second nga can be left out because the subject of the sentence doesn't change (Convict 2) Kea Yawey (ta'em) awngaio Ulte nì'aw (Hell) awngaäo – an adposition can't stand by itself, it has to be connected to some form of (pro)noun. (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Lu mevola ayzìsìt tì'i'avay – numbers count as adjectives, so you have to connect them to the noun via -a- (Convict 3) Oe tìkxey ke soli Rutxe ma Yeysu, (stivawm) tìng mikyun oeyä (prayer) aylì'ur (atxanwawe) – when you adress a person directly, you need to add ma. stawm is –control which means, Jesus just hears it; I think what you are looking for is the meaning of 'listen to my words' – so either tìng mikyun or yune (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Ngeyä Yeysu ke vewng – for emphasis you could use, ngeyä Yeysur ke'u 'it's nothing to him' (Convict 4) Oel omum futa po payey Oel omum futa pol tayok tsatsengit – again, tok is transitive, so is omum, so the structure of 'I know that' is literally 'I know this thing that'. If you want to keep it shorter you could use law oer fwa 'I'm sure that'. 'She'll be true' is probably something like 'I can trust her', so po mal layu oer (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Fol tswola' ngat (Convict 5) Krr a oe (lu) ke yawnìm – ‹awn› makes an adjective but can't stand alone. You're approach is good! There are various ways. You could use oet ke yeykolìm nulkrr '(when) I'm no longer bound' or oet leykalyonu '(when) I've been released' Ngal ke tsaye'a oet Fìtseng vaykrr kxitx (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Nga layu frakrr (a slave) spe'etu ?? Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Nga kerllkxerem (nemfa) mì ngeyä (grave) tsuktsurokxa tseng asyen 'final resting place' – a bit of a euphemism but could work; the infix position for kllkxem is in kxem nemfa is 'into' Zaver Zamunge (flag) – there is a non-Frommarian word for 'streamer' *u'imi that you could use. It would at least be understood, I think. Set (prisoner) ma spe'etu alu mune-tsìng-pukap-kew-'aw Ngeyä krr lu hasey Ulte ngeyä (parole) sngolä'i Ngal omum (a tsakem) tsaralit Valzon Po ral lu fwa oe (lu) ke yawnìm – see above Zaver Kehe ? ? ? Ngal wayìntxu pot tsat vaykrr (nga) terkup Pol (warns) vll futa nga lu lehrrapa tute – 'batch' is not a living thing, so tsa'u instead of po There was a proposal for 'warn' on the LEP a while back as (I believe) *rawk(e) si but it hasn't surfaced yet; so 'indicate' instead of 'warn', I think that's close enough Valzon Oel 'amaku (a loaf of bread) – I'm not sure that you can use 'aku that way. I'd go for, oel malmunge 'itit tsyosyuä nì'aw or tsyosyutsyìpit Oeyä tsmukeyä 'eveng lamu (asim) lok kxitx – from the 'time is almost up' as txew lok Pxoe 'armefu ohakx – you could leave out the tense altogether and just leave ‹er› Zaver Ulte nga 'ayefu ohakx nìmun Vaykrr korenä ralìri nga nume (law) – nume is not transitive! 'unless' is a tricky one. It could work with vaykrr but the meaning is not always synonymous Valzon Oel omum fayzìsìtä ralit – I'd go for ral fayzìsìtä amevopey smon oer (A slave of the law) spe'etu tsakorenä Zaver Mrra ayzìsìt fpi fwa nga kem sami Nì'ul (alunta) taluna nga fmami tivul Srane, ma (holpxay alu) mune-tsìng-pukap-kew-'aw Valzon Oe lu Zon Valzon. Zaver Ulte oe lu Zaver rä'ä Tswa' oeyä tstxot rä'ä Tswa' oet. ma Mune-tsìng-pukap-kew-'aw (Convicts) Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Nga layu frakrr (a slave) spe'etu Nìn nekll, nìn nekll Nga kerllkxerem (nemfa) mì ngeyä (grave)

[Plumps]

Don't know if this even helps you ... here's the second bit

Do You Hear the People Sing?

Enjolras: Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men? It is the music of the people Who will not be slaves again! When the beating of your heart Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When tomorrow comes! Combeferre: Will you join in our crusade? Who will be strong and stand with me? Beyond the barricade Is there a world you long to see? Courfeyrac: Then join in the fight That will give you the right to be free! All: Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men? It is the music of the people Who will not be slaves again! When the beating of your heart Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When tomorrow comes! Feuilly: Will you give all you can give So that our banner may advance Some will fall and some will live Will you stand up and take your chance? The blood of the martyrs Will water the meadows of France! All: Do you hear the people sing! Singing the song of angry men? It is the music of the people Who will not be slaves again! When the beating of your heart Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When tomorrow comes!

Inzolrasì Ngal stawm futa sute rol srak? – I'm afraid it's a bit wordier in Na'vi, we have to say 'do you hear that the people sing' Rerol tìrolit letìsti suteyä – technically, we don't know if rol is transitive or not. Po lu pamtseo suteyä – this can actually stand as-is. Again, po is for living things, since they talk about a song it would be tsa'u A ke layu (slaves) spe'etu nìmun! Krr a 'ekong ngeyä txe'lanä Ngam si 'ekongur ayauä – technically 'to echo' is not attested but you'll be understood but remember the weird behaviour of direct objects with si-verbs (i.e. -ru ending) Lu tìrey alaksi fwa  sngä'i – or just lu tìrey sngìyä'i, near future infix ‹ìy› will take care of the meaning of 'about to' krr a trray za'u Kompefer ? Srake nga 'awstengyäpayem ne tìwusem ayoeyä? – not sure myself if this works ... Tupe layu seykxel ulte kayllkxayem hu oe? – see above; question is whether 'strong' is meant here physically or mentally interesting interpretation ? nuä ekxan Lu kifkey a ngal ('anla) new tsive'a srak? – if you insist on 'anla I'd use srake lu kifkey a tsari sä'anla lu ngar 'is there a world that you have a yearning for'. Since 'anla doesn't allow the modal structure it's a bit complicated otherwise Korfeyrasì Tsakrr ziva'u ne tìwusem A tayìng tìmwiät ngaru lu ke yawnìm (see above) – don't know if one can use tìmwiä that way. I'd say skxom Frapo Ngal stawm futa sute rol srak? Rerol tìrolit letìsti suteyä Po lu pamtseo suteyä A ke layu (slaves) spe'etu nìmun! Krr a 'ekong ngeyä txe'lanä Ngam si 'ekongur ayauä Lu tìrey alaksi fwa sngä'i krr a trray za'u Fuley Ngal tayìng fra'ut a nga tsun tivìng srak? – another possibility would be ftxey ngal tayìng fra'ut a tsun fuke? Not sure whether the second nga and tìng are really necessary. ? fte *u'imi awngeyä tsivun kxll sivi Suteo rayey ulte suteo tayerkup – not sure about the meaning; does it mean 'some people' (an undefinable mass) or 'several people' (i.e. 'a'aw)? It's a matter of style, of course, but the second suteo could be replaced with pum srake Nga kayllkxäpeykayem ulte (take a chance) fmi – the construct of 'stand up' is lit. 'bring yourself to stand' kllkx‹äp›‹eyk›em Reypayìl (martyrs) ? tayìng payti atxkxer lezeswa Franseyä – lit: 'will give water to the grassy land of France' Frapo Ngal stawm futa sute rol srak? Rerol tìrolit letìsti suteyä Po lu pamtseo suteyä A ke layu (slaves) spe'etu nìmun! Krr a 'ekong ngeyä txe'lanä Ngam si 'ekongur ayauä Lu tìrey alaksi fwa sngä'i krr a trray za'u

[Clarke]

numbers count as adjectives, so you have to connect them to the noun via -a-

Regardless of the normal grammatical rules, that particular number is being used as a noun. Throughout the whole story, "24601" is effectively used as a name, rather than any description of 24 thousand six hundred and one things.

[Plumps]

numbers count as adjectives, so you have to connect them to the noun via -a-

Regardless of the normal grammatical rules, that particular number is being used as a noun. Throughout the whole story, "24601" is effectively used as a name, rather than any description of 24 thousand six hundred and one things.

You will notice, though, that I didn't correct it in that instance because I knew that
I don't know how Na'vi handles these things (treating words from other wordclasses as nouns). From our current knowledge of the language, to call somebody ma mune-tsìng-pukap-kew-'aw ... just seems weird. That's all I'm saying That's why I put holpxay alu in between – it's the same as if Javert would say 'No. 24601'.
But—as with everything—it's just a suggestion. People may come up with other solutions

[Stranger Come Knocking]

BTW, in the Work Song, Javert's line is, "No! Follow to the letter your itinary; this badge of shame you'll show until you die."

That's what I thought, but I just copy & pasted anyway. *shrug* Besides, how do you translate "follow to the letter" if Na'vi has no written language, never mind "itinerary".

Look Down (The Convicts): Revised

Spoiler

(Convict 1)
Nìn nekll, nìn nekll
rä'ä nìn feyä aynarit

(Convicts)
Nìn nekll, nìn nekll
Ngal tok fìtsengit vaykrr terkup

(Convict 2)
Kea Yawey (ta'em) awngaio
Ulte nì'aw (Hell) awngaäo

(Convicts)
Nìn nekll, nìn nekll
Lu mevola ayzìsìt tì'i'avay

(Convict 3)
Oe tìkxey ke soli
Rutxe ma Yeysu, (stivawm) tìng mikyun oeyä (prayer) aylì'ur (atxanwawe)

(Convicts)
Nìn nekll, nìn nekll
Ngeyä Yeysur ke'u

(Convict 4)
Law oer fwa po payey
Law oer fwa po mal layu oer

(Convicts)
Nìn nekll, nìn nekll
Fol tswola' ngat

(Convict 5)
Krr a oe (lu) ke yawnìm
Ngal ke tsaye'a oet
Fìtseng vaykrr kxitx

(Convicts)
Nìn nekll, nìn nekll
Nga layu frakrr (a slave) spe'etu ??
Nìn nekll, nìn nekll
Nga kllkxerem (nemfa) mì ngeyä tsuktsurokxa tseng asyen

Zaver
Zamunge u'imi

Set (prisoner) ma spe'etu alu mune-tsìng-pukap-kew-'aw
Ngeyä krr lu hasey
Ulte ngeyä (parole) sngolä'i
Ngal omum (a tsakem) tsaralit

Valzon
Po ral lu fwa oe (lu) ke yawnìm – see above

Zaver
Kehe
?
?
?
Ngal wayìntxu pot tsat vaykrr (nga) terkup
Tsa'ul (warns) vll futa nga lu lehrrapa tute – 'batch' is not a living thing

Valzon
Oel malmunge 'itit tsyosyuä nì'aw

Oeyä tsmukeyä 'eveng lamu (asim) lok kxitx
Pxoe 'armefu ohakx

Zaver
Ulte nga 'ayefu ohakx nìmun
Vaykrr korenä ralìri nga nume (law)

Valzon
Oel omum fayzìsìtä ralit – I'd go for ral fayzìsìtä amevopey smon oer
Spe'etu tsakorenä

Zaver
Mrra ayzìsìt fpi fwa nga kem sami
Nì'ul (alunta) taluna nga fmami tivul
Srane, ma (holpxay alu) mune-tsìng-pukap-kew-'aw

Valzon
Oe lu Zon Valzon.

Zaver
Ulte oe lu Zaver
rä'ä Tswa' oeyä tstxot
rä'ä Tswa' oet.
ma Mune-tsìng-pukap-kew-'aw

(Convicts)
Nìn nekll, nìn nekll
Nga layu frakrr (a slave) spe'etu
Nìn nekll, nìn nekll
Nga kerllkxerem (nemfa) mì ngeyä (grave)

Do You Hear the People Sing?: Revised

Spoiler

Ngal stawm futa sute rol srak?
Rerol tìrolit letìsti suteyä
Tsa'u lu pamtseo suteyä
A ke layu (slaves) spe'etu nìmun!
Krr a 'ekong ngeyä txe'lanä
Ngam si 'ekongur ayauä
Lu tìrey sngìyä'i
krr a trray za'u

Kompefer
Srake nga 'awstengyäpayem ne tìwusem ayoeyä?
Tupe layu seykxel ulte kayllkxayem hu oe?
Nuä ekxan
'anla I'd use srake lu kifkey a tsari sä'anla lu ngar

Korfeyrasì
Tsakrr ziva'u ne tìwusem
A tayìng tìmwiät ngaru lu ke yawnìm

Frapo
Ngal stawm futa sute rol srak?
Rerol tìrolit letìsti suteyä
Po lu pamtseo suteyä
A ke layu (slaves) spe'etu nìmun!
Krr a 'ekong ngeyä txe'lanä
Ngam si 'ekongur ayauä
Lu tìrey alaksi fwa sngä'i
krr a trray za'u

Fuley
Ngal tayìng fra'ut a nga tsun tivìng srak?
Fte u'imi awngeyä tsivun kxll sivi
Suteo rayey ulte suteo tayerkup
srake Nga kayllkxäpeykayem ulte (take a chance) fmi
Reypayìl (martyrs)
tayìng payti atxkxer lezeswa Franseyä

Frapo
Ngal stawm futa sute rol srak?
Rerol tìrolit letìsti suteyä
Po lu pamtseo suteyä
A ke layu (slaves) spe'etu nìmun!
Krr a 'ekong ngeyä txe'lanä
Ngam si 'ekongur ayauä
Lu tìrey alaksi fwa sngä'i
krr a trray za'u

I'm sure I missed some things.  It has been a long time since I've been here.  It's also 11pm and I'm also trying to work on a paper for an early morning class. ><

[Plumps]

Sorry for getting back to this so late

Yes, for the most part the paranthesis mean delete, I'm sorry that I'm not more consistant with my annotations

I was just trying to find circumlocutions for words we don't have yet, thus: I see 'slave' can easily be spe'etu – from what I remember from the film, they were prisoners/captives. 'Prayer' can be described by '(emotionally) important/meaningful words'

'batch' Of course I meant 'badge'!

[Stranger Come Knocking]

Sorry for getting back to this so late

No problem at all.  I wasn't even home for two days and hadn't slept or eaten for 36+ hours. *sob*

Yes, for the most part the paranthesis mean delete, I'm sorry that I'm not more consistant with my annotations

I was just trying to find circumlocutions for words we don't have yet, thus: I see 'slave' can easily be spe'etu – from what I remember from the film, they were prisoners/captives. 'Prayer' can be described by '(emotionally) important/meaningful words'

Okay. *goes fwoosh over still-exhausted brain.  I'll figure this out logically later.

'batch' Of course I meant 'badge'! [/size][/font]