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Na'vi Number System - Table
« on: December 02, 2012, 05:37:42 pm »
Kaltxì ma smuktu!

Here are tables and Excel files from "How to use Na'vi numbers".
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I hope it is well-written and I hope you like it. :)
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Edit: Error fix
Edit: First table updated
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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 06:37:06 pm »
Next alien species gets 10 fingers.  ;D  Looks like a useful table however.  To the PRINTER!

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2012, 10:18:21 am »
Kaltxì ma Suratt

Next alien species gets 10 fingers.  ;D
For example, the Maya civilization had a number base of 20 (X20) ;)

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2012, 01:04:54 pm »
Very useful tables. Irayo! :)
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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2012, 03:01:00 pm »
Very useful tables. Irayo! :)
Kea tìkin ;)

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2012, 12:44:21 am »
So, here is a translation of "The Na'vi Number System" in English.
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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2013, 09:19:04 am »
A little error at the third table are fixed. :)

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2013, 06:07:21 pm »
Kaltxì ma tsmuktu!

New files!
Avaliable in English, German and French :)

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2013, 06:11:08 pm »
Seriously? 0th exists! :o
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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2013, 11:09:21 pm »
Seriously? 0th exists! :o
I'm not sure. Just see that as an hypothecical possibillily, but the point is 1 to 15. ;)

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2013, 01:34:58 pm »
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2013, 01:40:06 pm »

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2013, 08:08:08 am »
Seriously? 0th exists! :o
Just found:
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nullième/zéroième
;)
But in Na'vi is not used.

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2013, 08:18:17 am »
Just found:
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nullième/zéroième
;)
Right.

But in Na'vi is not used.
If it did, it would be kewve IMKPO.

But, it is used... by me:
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Tsaw lu kewvea lesar 'u a fko nume.
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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2013, 08:22:43 am »
If it did, it would be kewve IMKPO.
Yes, but we don't know, if the Na'vi knows the conceps of 'Zero'. Sure, they have a word for zero, but they using this? Especially as ordinal number? :-\

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2013, 08:45:11 am »
but we don't know, if the Na'vi knows the conceps of 'Zero'. Sure, they have a word for zero, but they using this? Especially as ordinal number? :-\

I think they would not have an ordinal for zero.  You have to keep in mind that this is an oral tradition society.  No writing.  Not even pictograms thus far.  (Although the film digitizers did take some liberty with what appears to me as some sort of ikran tribal symbol for the "Tribe of the Eastern Sea" top that some of the warriors were wearing.  However that's irrelevant here...)

We have the word, [ ke'u ] which means nothing at all, not a thing.  This makes logical sense.  Did you catch any fish?  Ke'u.  Did you find any fruit/vegetables?  Ke'u.  Did you see (X)?, Ke'u.  The dictionary references this from Karyu Paul as both a pronoun and an adverb.  

However ordinals are normally adjectives.  Wonder if ke'u should be considered to be more flexible also as an adjective?  Conceptually, it fits.

I agree that the logical pattern of kewve would follow.  But we do not say 0th in English either.  There is no zero-eth of anything unless you are discussing math (ie: exponentials, etc.) or medical cases regarding epidemics (ie: patient zero = index case).  The Na'vi are a hunter/gatherer society.  IMO, they would not have a need or reason to have or describe a 0th of anything.  

(Personal thought...  As it is, advanced numbers are really for sawtute benefit.  At most, the Na'vi would count up to 8 or 16.  (If the average Na'vi could even count beyond one hand...)  In practicality, anything more than that would be a herd of talioang or a large basket of fkxen, etc...)
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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2013, 08:48:04 am »
Ma Taronyu Leleioae
Na'vi zero is kew not ke'u!

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2013, 08:53:34 am »
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Na'vi zero is kew not ke'u!

Yes I know.  Kew is a number.  And, yes, you would create 0th from the number.

But when you are speaking of 0th, you are also speaking about a mathematical concept.  And my point is that, conceptually, would the Na'vi have a concept for 0th?  Just because one wants a perfectly filled in chart, doesn't mean that it reflects the Na'vi thinking and culture.  Hence my pointing to the established spoken word referring to "nothing".  Which is ke'u.  Not kew.

Just my thoughts...  It's just a question...
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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2013, 08:55:21 am »
Well, this is the cause why I left free the ordinal Na'vi cell in the tables.

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Re: Na'vi Number System - Table
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2013, 02:23:11 pm »
Update:

Russian file added! :D ;)
I hope the Excel file works correctly...

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