Na'vi Number System - Table

Tìtstewan · December 02, 2012, 05:37:42 PM

Kaltxì ma smuktu!

Here are tables and Excel files from "How to use Na'vi numbers".
Avaliable in English, German, French, Hungarian and Russian

ZIP file includes:
The Tables and the Excel 2003 files!
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I hope it is well-written and I hope you like it.

Feel free to use it!

If you find an error, let me know! Irayo!

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Edit: Error fix
Edit: First table updated

Suratt · December 02, 2012, 06:37:06 PM

Next alien species gets 10 fingers.

Looks like a useful table however. To the PRINTER!

Tìtstewan · December 03, 2012, 10:18:21 AM

Kaltxì ma Suratt

Quote from: Suratt on December 02, 2012, 06:37:06 PM
Next alien species gets 10 fingers.

For example, the Maya civilization had a number base of 20 (X₂₀)

Kamean · December 03, 2012, 01:04:54 PM

Very useful tables. Irayo!

Tìtstewan · December 03, 2012, 03:01:00 PM

Quote from: Kamean on December 03, 2012, 01:04:54 PM
Very useful tables. Irayo!

Kea tìkin

Tìtstewan · December 04, 2012, 12:44:21 AM

So, here is a translation of "The Na'vi Number System" in English.
*click*

Tìtstewan · January 13, 2013, 09:19:04 AM

A little error at the third table are fixed.

Tìtstewan · March 06, 2013, 06:07:21 PM

Kaltxì ma tsmuktu!

New files!
Avaliable in English, German and French

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Vawmataw · March 06, 2013, 06:11:08 PM

Seriously? 0th exists!

Tìtstewan · March 06, 2013, 11:09:21 PM

Quote from: Kameyu a Kepekmì on March 06, 2013, 06:11:08 PM
Seriously? 0th exists!

I'm not sure. Just see that as an hypothecical possibillily, but the point is 1 to 15.

Kamean · March 07, 2013, 01:34:58 PM

Quote from: Kameyu a Kepekmì on March 06, 2013, 06:11:08 PM
Seriously? 0th exists!

Yes.
0 - kew

Tìtstewan · March 07, 2013, 01:40:06 PM

Quote from: Kamean on March 07, 2013, 01:34:58 PM
Quote from: Kameyu a Kepekmì on March 06, 2013, 06:11:08 PM
Seriously? 0th exists!
Yes.
0 - kew

He means 0th

Tìtstewan · March 08, 2013, 08:08:08 AM

Quote from: Kameyu a Kepekmì on March 06, 2013, 06:11:08 PM
Seriously? 0th exists!

Just found:

Quotenullième/zéroième

But in Na'vi is not used.

Vawmataw · March 08, 2013, 08:18:17 AM

Quote from: Tìtstewan on March 08, 2013, 08:08:08 AM
Just found:
Quotenullième/zéroième

Right.

Quote from: Tìtstewan on March 08, 2013, 08:08:08 AM
But in Na'vi is not used.

If it did, it would be kewve IMKPO.

But, it is used... by me:

QuoteTsaw lu kewvea lesar 'u a fko nume.

Tìtstewan · March 08, 2013, 08:22:43 AM

Quote from: Kameyu a Kepekmì on March 08, 2013, 08:18:17 AM
If it did, it would be kewve IMKPO.

Yes, but we don't know, if the Na'vi knows the conceps of 'Zero'. Sure, they have a word for zero, but they using this? Especially as ordinal number? $:-\$

Taronyu Leleioae · March 08, 2013, 08:45:11 AM

Quote from: Tìtstewan on March 08, 2013, 08:22:43 AM
but we don't know, if the Na'vi knows the conceps of 'Zero'. Sure, they have a word for zero, but they using this? Especially as ordinal number? $:-\$

I think they would not have an ordinal for zero. You have to keep in mind that this is an oral tradition society. No writing. Not even pictograms thus far. (Although the film digitizers did take some liberty with what appears to me as some sort of ikran tribal symbol for the "Tribe of the Eastern Sea" top that some of the warriors were wearing. However that's irrelevant here...)

We have the word, [ ke'u ] which means nothing at all, not a thing. This makes logical sense. Did you catch any fish? Ke'u. Did you find any fruit/vegetables? Ke'u. Did you see (X)?, Ke'u. The dictionary references this from Karyu Paul as both a pronoun and an adverb.

However ordinals are normally adjectives. Wonder if ke'u should be considered to be more flexible also as an adjective? Conceptually, it fits.

I agree that the logical pattern of kewve would follow. But we do not say 0th in English either. There is no zero-eth of anything unless you are discussing math (ie: exponentials, etc.) or medical cases regarding epidemics (ie: patient zero = index case). The Na'vi are a hunter/gatherer society. IMO, they would not have a need or reason to have or describe a 0th of anything.

(Personal thought... As it is, advanced numbers are really for sawtute benefit. At most, the Na'vi would count up to 8 or 16. (If the average Na'vi could even count beyond one hand...) In practicality, anything more than that would be a herd of talioang or a large basket of fkxen, etc...)

Tìtstewan · March 08, 2013, 08:48:04 AM

Ma Taronyu Leleioae
Na'vi zero is kew not ke'u!

Taronyu Leleioae · March 08, 2013, 08:53:34 AM

Quote from: Tìtstewan on March 08, 2013, 08:48:04 AM
Ma Taronyu Leleioae
Na'vi zero is kew not ke'u!

Yes I know. Kew is a number. And, yes, you would create 0th from the number.

But when you are speaking of 0th, you are also speaking about a mathematical concept. And my point is that, conceptually, would the Na'vi have a concept for 0th? Just because one wants a perfectly filled in chart, doesn't mean that it reflects the Na'vi thinking and culture. Hence my pointing to the established spoken word referring to "nothing". Which is ke'u. Not kew.

Just my thoughts... It's just a question...

Tìtstewan · March 08, 2013, 08:55:21 AM

Well, this is the cause why I left free the ordinal Na'vi cell in the tables.

Tìtstewan · March 08, 2013, 02:23:11 PM

Update:

Russian file added!

I hope the Excel file works correctly...

Eywa ayngahu!