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Re: Vok language
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2016, 03:14:06 pm »

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Re: Vok language
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2016, 03:33:46 pm »
;D
Officially, it's tata. ;)

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Re: Vok language
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2016, 03:40:30 pm »
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Officially, it's tata. ;)

so father = tata

It's almost same as to Czech "táta"  ;D

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Re: Vok language
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2016, 03:43:44 pm »
so father = tata

It's almost same as to Czech "táta"  ;D
Also Romanian. :D

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Re: Vok language
« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2016, 04:28:10 pm »
Vawmie is going quite crazy here.

Do no turn it to next Esperanto tho!  :)
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Re: Vok language
« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2016, 04:31:14 pm »
Do no turn it to next Esperanto tho!  :)
Mi ne kredas tion. Mi inventas cxion kiel en la Na'via, sed eblas ke kelkaj vortoj jam ekzistas en kelkaj lingvoj.

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Meine Sprache, meine Regeln. ;D
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Re: Vok language
« Reply #46 on: February 26, 2016, 04:32:05 pm »
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Re: Vok language
« Reply #47 on: February 26, 2016, 05:01:19 pm »
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Meine Sprache, meine Regeln. ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Vok language
« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2016, 03:27:22 pm »
I have to use my sud0 powerz for the numbers. lel

I changed some things so that it's more understandable, less confusing and simpler, without being too regular.

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Numbers from 1 to 10 act like noun suffixes. The other numbers follow a special grammatical rule that you will find in the appropriate page.

The number thi has the particularity to create the number 9, 99, 999, etc.
To do so, you have to say thi followed by the next natural number. Thi substracts 1 to the number to which it is connected. Examples: nakuak'thinakthiua (229), thiuak' (99)

Moreover, for numbers over 100 and 1000, you can separate the hundred/thousand units from the rest with a (plus). For example, 1492 would be lak' a thithakuak' a thiuatuanak, one thousand plus four hundred plus ninety-two.

Finally, all the numbers beyond a milion can be represented with the word vármile.

-thi = one
-nak = two
-nakthi = three
-thithak = four
-thak = five
-thakthi = six
-thanak = seven
-thanakthi = eight
-thiuatu = nine
-uatu = ten

uath = eleven
uan = twelve
uanth = thirteen
uathiak = fourteen
uathak = fifteen
uathakthi = sixteen
uathanak = seventeen
uathanakthi = eighteen
thinakuatu = nineteen

20-98:
[number of tens]-ua-[number of units]
Example: 66 = thakthiuathakthi

uak' = one hundred
[number of hundreds]uak' a [1 to 98]

lak' = one thousand
ualak = ten thousand

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Numbers higher than 10 follow a strange rule. They are put outside of the sentence, with the relative/placeholder pronoun na.
The leader ate ten berries.
Ioth'aporvekápek'ánm' . Navekáuat.
Leaders eats <-berries. They are ten.
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Re: Vok language
« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2016, 08:07:51 pm »
As an homage to the Yamana/Yaghan language, I have included a couple of new words:

hik'a - ocean
uthi - island
iepun - mountain/hill (feminine word)
uthu - bird

I really wish to make more exceptions and special things in my language... Any ideas?

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Re: Vok language
« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2016, 10:27:14 pm »
Just check some other languages like Bantu for inspiration. :)

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Re: Vok language
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2016, 10:50:19 am »
hik'a - ocean
uthi - island
iepun - mountain/hill (feminine word)
uthu - bird

Sunu oeru  :)


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Re: Vok language
« Reply #52 on: July 09, 2016, 06:35:03 pm »
Modal verbs

nei - can
    enei - I can
  nait - able (adj.)
      enait - I am able
lol - obliged, asked, commanded

Modal verbs can become suffixes to their verbal complement.
In case of negation, ja agrees with the verbal complement (no logic lol).

e porporenpukáve kanarve pornei
I can eat delicious meat.

e porporenpukáve kanarve porjanei
I can't eat delicious meat.

kanar - meat (French speakers will think about ducks [canard])

And I realised it's insanely big. Long sentences can be from now on separated optionally.

How to deal with these adjectives?

ánVokevlánait
litt. : I speak like Vok in an ''able'' manner.
You may notice that I wrote nait instead of ánnait. It would make ánVokevláánnait, but to ease the pronounciation, the letters are just merged instead.

naita - shall, should (v.)
epornaita
I should eat

Reduplication

Since Captain Tìtstewan suggested me the Bantu languages, I took a look. It's a feature of these language, which consists of repeating a word root. In Vok, it is either used to increase the importance or the strength of an action, or to suggest repetition.

Increasing:
narinrin - excellent
janarinrin - awful

Repeating:
nainaima - voice (repeatedly noisy lol) [feminine]
homhom - celebration

Extra word: ava - about
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Re: Vok language
« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2016, 06:56:53 pm »
Good to see new words and ideas here  :)

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Since Captain Tìtstewan suggested me the Bantu languages, I took a look. It's a feature of these language, which consists of repeating a word root.
Reduplication is also in Hawaiian.

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Re: Vok language
« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2016, 09:17:36 pm »
Even for the Vok it would be rude to not say goodbye to your friends

uela uela - goodbye
thijukalal - good night (may the night cradle you) [from thirojuvekalaml]
 kalam - v. cradle, rock
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Re: Vok language
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2016, 03:34:08 pm »
Is it OK to change my mind?
New rule: if the direct/indirect object contains more than one word (ex.: noun + adjective), then the case marker goes to the verb, pointing toward the object.

e porporenpu kanar vepornei
I can eat delicious meat.
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Re: Vok language
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2016, 06:18:10 pm »
Good work here  :)

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Re: Vok language
« Reply #57 on: February 11, 2017, 09:39:23 pm »
Quick lesson about age and years.

For the moment, the concept of year is nebulous and probably different to ours. You'll prefer to use the word for 'cycle', which is thirathira.
Now, if you'd like to express the age, a possession or an attribute is inappropriate in Vok language. The word to use is velam. The verb used is transitive and means 'pass through'. You can pass through the forest, the river, the pathway or cycles.

Example: Velamevekáthirathira. Navekáuathakthi.
Pass I (acc.)(plural)cycle. One(acc.)(pl.) sixteen.
I'm 16 years old.

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Re: Vok language
« Reply #58 on: February 11, 2017, 10:32:52 pm »
Quick lesson about age and years.

It's cool to see that this is still in development :)

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For the moment, the concept of year is nebulous and probably different to ours. You'll prefer to use the word for 'cycle', which is thirathira.

That's a cool word for cycle, using reduplication. I like it.

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Now, if you'd like to express the age, a possession or an attribute is inappropriate in Vok language. The word to use is velam. The verb used is transitive and means 'pass through'. You can pass through the forest, the river, the pathway or cycles.

Makes perfect sense to me

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Example: Velamevekáthirathira. Navekáuathakthi.
Pass I (acc.)(plural)cycle. One(acc.)(pl.) sixteen.
I'm 16 years old.

Definitely a fascinating structure. I'll be thinking on this. :D
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Re: Vok language
« Reply #59 on: February 12, 2017, 06:22:47 am »
Yeah, nice to see that it's still in development :)

Example: Velamevekáthirathira. Navekáuathakthi.
Pass I (acc.)(plural)cycle. One(acc.)(pl.) sixteen.
I'm 16 years old.
Looks as interesting structure :)

 

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