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Should we reset the worlds to have better access to the newer features of minecraft?

Pandora - Reset
10 (43.5%)
Pandora - Leave as is
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Creative - Reset
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Creative - Leave as is
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World Reset
« on: March 03, 2012, 12:02:48 pm »
There are some newer features in Minecraft that we can't easily take advantage of without traveling to far away areas that have yet to be explored.  A number of other minecraft servers out there do a map reset after new versions come out.  Should we do the same?

For the creative server, it may be possible to keep the current world accessible due to Bukkit's ability to run multiple worlds. 

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Re: World Reset
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2012, 11:22:29 pm »
I was actually going to suggest this... Will there be room for actual Creative Mode in Creative?

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Re: World Reset
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2012, 12:18:53 am »
hmmm, a reset would let us use the newer features, but would destroy the rail network, hometree and hell's gate (if the last two were ever completed). i dont think its worth it, on the basis that not many people get on it anymore. Kehe leyn
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Re: World Reset
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2012, 01:34:49 pm »
I was thinking that we could archive all of the older worlds on the creative server.  Bukkit allows for multiple worlds, so we could just drop them all into the creative server and then use the stargates or other teleport system to jump between the worlds.  And if we go that route, we could actually just leave the creative server alone, but add a new world to it that has all the new features.

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Re: World Reset
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2012, 09:37:39 pm »
hmm, that sounds good. Sran lyen  ;D
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Re: World Reset
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2012, 07:57:23 pm »
my question is, is there any updates that pandora doesnt have or does it have all the features because I know im looking for strongholds and abandoned mine shafts things like that

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Re: World Reset
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2012, 09:13:33 am »
my question is, is there any updates that pandora doesnt have or does it have all the features because I know im looking for strongholds and abandoned mine shafts things like that

Pandora is up to date, however the new stuff that you are seeking will only be found in new sections of the map that have not been explored already.  Most of the current explored area on the map was generated before some of the newer features were introduced.  That is why I am proposing a new map for Pandora.

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Re: World Reset
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2012, 03:12:02 pm »
i just found some Jungle Biom  on my server, we need to reset ;D
and Seze, i might be able to find a seed for the map creation that will make it all jungle bio, if you want. (yes, it would slightly limit resources)
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Re: World Reset
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2012, 06:57:53 pm »
i just found some Jungle Biom  on my server, we need to reset ;D
and Seze, i might be able to find a seed for the map creation that will make it all jungle bio, if you want. (yes, it would slightly limit resources)

Good thing the Minecraft Seed's website has some good ones up for 1.2-

http://www.minecraftseeds.info/2012/03/185119370.html
http://www.minecraftseeds.info/2012/03/artomix.html

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Re: World Reset
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2012, 11:00:45 pm »
I was already thinking of the jungle biome stuff.  At the very least, I'd like spawn to be in a jungle.

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Re: World Reset
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 02:34:42 am »
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Good thing the Minecraft Seed's website has some good ones up for 1.2-

http://www.minecraftseeds.info/2012/03/185119370.html
http://www.minecraftseeds.info/2012/03/artomix.html

as far as i know, the seeds change with every update.

But, i happened to find the seed "o". it makes it mostly jungle. i made three different maps with o, all started me out in jungle.
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Re: World Reset
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 07:13:56 am »
it is not possible to keep the Hometree i build ?


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Re: World Reset
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2012, 03:36:41 pm »
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it is not possible to keep the Hometree i build ?

Seze said we could put the current SMP world onto the creative server, so yes, you can keep your hometree (if Seze archives the current SMP).
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Re: World Reset
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2012, 07:02:14 am »
I think we should start a new world on both servers. Archive the old Creative world as well as the old Pandora world using Multiverse + MVPortals (we should replace stargates with these, since stargates are buggy sometimes, though haven't used the newer versions of stargate) plus setting up a proper permissions system on Creative with actual creative mode to trusted players and new players in survival but not able to place/remove blocks - allowing them to look around but not do much else. I think the current creative world is a bit... cluttered. Especially around spawn, it's just a hacked-together thing of the original bedrock spawn and some other stuff.

tl;dr: New maps on both, archive old maps, proper creative mode on creative server, make new creative spawn city

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Re: World Reset
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 11:50:26 am »
Can I suggest rather than taxing the servers with multiple worlds instead just uploading the worlds to dropbox or something and letting us download them.

(I might want a copy of the pandora server...)
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Re: World Reset
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2012, 07:52:37 pm »
Well the creative server is now using the most recent 1.4.2 compatable bukkit ( which claims only 3 known issues which the dev has disabled )
I've also updated the wormhole extreme to the current version. it will require re-activating each gate.
I know where one gate is ( spawn) if others knew where the rest are i could try and re-activate them all
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Re: World Reset
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2012, 12:32:11 pm »
I've updated both servers, and all the plugins on the creative.
if a world reset is in order , then would be nice to know what people would like to see. i still see about 3 or more people a day joining in on a regular basis
dunno if they are just usuals or griefers, or explorers
but would be nice to see some new stuff done =)
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Re: World Reset
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2012, 09:05:13 pm »
Okay, I've thought about this. I think that with all those new features we should make two fresh maps. One for the Survival server (Pandora) and one for the Creative server (Learn Na'vi Creative Minecraft).
For the first world, I think we should create a little non-pvp spawn-town where starters can get a couple of basic tools before going off into the wild to try and survive nature and it's inhabitants.
For the Creative world, there should be a larger spawn area (larger than the current) which doesn't look like it's just a couple of cubed off areas. The spawn should lead the new players through an introduction area to slow but nicely shove in the server rules. Outside of the (preferably circular) area, the players then would be free to build as their creative brain desires. The starting area would also be used to make new players known with the plugins that we use.

What to do with the old maps? I definitely wouldn't get rid of them, we could make them "museum worlds" accessible from the Creative Spawn (multiverse plugin or alike) so people can still get in and show off their build, dig up nostalgic memories or go back to copy a build in the new world.

The above is my honest opinion, feel free to comment on it, I'd love to hear some more ideas!

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Re: World Reset
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2012, 09:24:05 pm »
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This is exactly the kinds feedback I was going to see.  Some constructive comment for good dialog so that in the end all will be happy!   Keep it coming people!

edit: since i had made the reply from my phone hrh
Ok yes, in fact I was on the server with Payoang last night doing a fly around and a bit of ( how'd he put it) Strip mining hahah. and even he said yea it would be nice to have the newer features in the map as the existing map being quite dated will not have any of the newer items/ features going on .
Yes I fully agree we should archive the existing creative server ( which i have a backup from the night before christmas and christmas day of both )
thusly for those that want access to things they made in the past they can and will be made available one way or another. ( still working on this )

Multiverse is a possible but the version from the reading MAY not be compatible with the latest version of bukkit( 1.4.6-r0.1) which at this stage is technically a beta but gives the full feature set of the mainline 1.4.6. only thing disabled by the dev's is portal usage by mobs, villagers, etc.

Multiverse 2 suggests 1.4.5 compatible, which would suggest it may work with 1.4.6 but it's up in the air and will need to be tested before putting in place. in worst case. i set them up as separate servers as a temp solution.

as for the spawn for creative: it was suggested in another thread as well to have a larrge forest or jungle biome around the spawn point. while this is up in the air, need more then just a few people to input on it ( hopefully will get more feedback )

as for Pandora spawn: OH yes a jungle or forest biome would be essential IMHO as it should be for the world that will represent our favorite world from the movie. 

I'm starting to look around for seeds that would generate this on 1.4.6 as clearing the land really isn't an issue after the fact so having that Pandora like feel will be nice.

One thing I haven't seen is also suggestions on plugins or mods
so far my personal list suggest will be

World Guard
World Edit
Logblock
Essentials
Dynmap ( and a few of it's addons )
Craft2IRC
PermissionsEx

as for the Multiverse2 core and such they need testing to make sure they aren't gonna bork the world
=) ( will post back regarding this as i can )
« Last Edit: December 29, 2012, 06:23:00 am by Palulukan Maktoyu Ta'lengean »
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Re: World Reset
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2012, 02:13:20 pm »
Sounds good - I'm okay with resetting both worlds!

 

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