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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #100 on: March 12, 2012, 09:35:35 pm »


Kivar lu nivume.

To teach is to learn.

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #101 on: March 12, 2012, 09:49:09 pm »
Ke äotivìran kawkrr sute a tìhusahaw livu.

*'they' can refer to either hammocks or people, take your choice.

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #102 on: March 13, 2012, 02:35:39 am »
Kivar lu nivume.

To teach is to learn.
As there is nothing like infinitive in Na'vi, we need to add something:
Fwa kar lu fwa nume (lit: That you teach is that you learn).
But better version is:
Tìkusar lu tìnusume (teaching is learning)

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Ke äotivìran kawkrr sute a tìhusahaw livu.
Addposition can't be connected to verb, but noun (and use space, if it is connected from front side). Tìhusahaw is noun, wee need adjective. And as it is something like command, replace ke with rä'ä:
Kawkrr rä'ä tivìran äo sute a hahaw or Kawkrr rä'ä tivìran äo sute ahusahaw.
This sounds a little strange to me, one can wonder here on Earth how one can walk under people, IMHO better is
Kawkrr rä'ä tivìran äo nivi a tok tuteot ahusahaw.
Nivi is illegal word for hammock (from ASG), but it don't breaks rules for syllable creation
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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #103 on: March 13, 2012, 11:41:40 am »
Hmm.....so when one wants to use kawkrr, one should use rä'ä as well.  Should they go next to each other 'Kawkrr rä'ä' or buttress the verb to emphasize the point 'Kawkrr tivìran rä'ä'....or doesn't it matter?

I deliberately didn't use nivi because it was illegal.  Another thing we need a word for, kefyak?
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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #104 on: March 13, 2012, 11:48:12 am »
Hmm.....so when one wants to use kawkrr, one should use rä'ä as well.  Should they go next to each other 'Kawkrr rä'ä' or buttress the verb to emphasize the point 'Kawkrr tiìviran rä'ä'....or doesn't it matter?

I deliberately didn't use nivi because it was illegal.  Another thing we need a word for, kefyak?

Rä'ä  is a command-form. DON'T! compared to "it might be better if you were not going to...."

And there is a suggestion out to legalise nivi, so don't despair ;)
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #105 on: March 13, 2012, 03:33:10 pm »
Hmm.....so when one wants to use kawkrr, one should use rä'ä as well.  Should they go next to each other 'Kawkrr rä'ä' or buttress the verb to emphasize the point 'Kawkrr tivìran rä'ä'....or doesn't it matter?
with "kawkrr" you need another negation (Na'vi uses multiple negation) - rä'ä for commands - Kawkrr tsakem rä'ä si
or ke for general negation - Po kawkrr tsakem ke soli.
Negation always goes directly in front of verb (for si verb just in front of si).

Location of kawkrr is not strict, tsakem rä'ä si kawkrr is still correct
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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #106 on: March 13, 2012, 06:11:40 pm »
Good info!  So.....if I drop the kawkrr, then I need only use 'ke', srak?

Tsat tsun oel ke kivem si.

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #107 on: March 13, 2012, 09:41:00 pm »


Fra'u a titswusaron ke livu toruk.


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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #108 on: March 13, 2012, 09:55:05 pm »





Ngal ke tsun rivun fra teylut äo tskxe 'awa.

You won't find all teylu under one rock.

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #109 on: March 13, 2012, 10:06:01 pm »


Nìswey nivume taweyk 'awa nantang tup pxay (pum?).

Better to learn from one viperwolf than from many.

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #110 on: March 13, 2012, 11:29:00 pm »
Fra'u a titswusaron ke livu toruk.
Tìtswusayon is the noun "flying".  All you need for "everything which flies" is: Fra'u a tswayon...

Ngal ke tsun rivun fra teylut äo tskxe 'awa.
You won't find all teylu under one rock.
Nga ke tsun rivun frateylut äo tskxe a'aw.  OR  Ngal ke rayun frateylut äo tskxe a'aw.

Nìswey nivume taweyk 'awa nantang tup pxay (pum?).
Better to learn from one viperwolf than from many.
I would say this as:  Sweylu txo fko nivume ta 'awa nantang tup nantang apxay.  But I think this would work too:  Sìltsan (nì'ul) lu fwa fko nume 'awa nantangta to fwa zene nivume nantangta apxay.
Learn how to see.  Realize that everything connects to everything else.
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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #111 on: March 14, 2012, 01:57:36 am »
Fra'u a titswusaron ke livu toruk.
English original sounds interesting - IMHO it can also mean that toruk can't fly. Probably better sentence is "Not all what flies is a toruk":
It could be
Kea fraioang a tswayon lu toruk => but I'm afraid it could be interpreted as "No flying creature is toruk" (although "no creature" is kea ioang). I'll try to consult with better people.

IMHO also Fra'u a tswayon... is not fully correct - not things fly, but birds/animals/creatures
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #112 on: March 14, 2012, 03:09:56 am »
IMHO also Fra'u a tswayon... is not fully correct - not things fly, but birds/animals/creatures

*Throws flower at Blue Elf. *Wonders if that flower is considered to be flying. ;D
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #113 on: March 14, 2012, 03:26:37 am »
Neytiril kolar poti.

Neytiri taught him/her. (He has learnt to be reckless.)
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #114 on: March 14, 2012, 10:53:00 am »
IMHO also Fra'u a tswayon... is not fully correct - not things fly, but birds/animals/creatures

*Throws flower at Blue Elf. *Wonders if that flower is considered to be flying. ;D

Kehe. That flower zup or lìng (it there's hufwe) ;D
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #115 on: March 14, 2012, 12:24:57 pm »
Fra'u a titswusaron ke livu toruk.
English original sounds interesting - IMHO it can also mean that toruk can't fly. Probably better sentence is "Not all what flies is a toruk":
It could be
Kea fraioang a tswayon lu toruk => but I'm afraid it could be interpreted as "No flying creature is toruk" (although "no creature" is kea ioang). I'll try to consult with better people.

IMHO also Fra'u a tswayon... is not fully correct - not things fly, but birds/animals/creatures

What about Toruk ke livu fra'u a tswayon?

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #116 on: March 14, 2012, 12:26:14 pm »
IMHO also Fra'u a tswayon... is not fully correct - not things fly, but birds/animals/creatures

*Throws flower at Blue Elf. *Wonders if that flower is considered to be flying. ;D


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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #117 on: March 14, 2012, 12:47:27 pm »
What about Toruk ke livu fra'u a tswayon?

I think it should be "Toruk ke lu fra'u a tswayon" then.

livu makes your sentence say "Toruk may not be everything that flies"
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #118 on: March 14, 2012, 12:53:38 pm »
IMHO also Fra'u a tswayon... is not fully correct - not things fly, but birds/animals/creatures

*Throws flower at Blue Elf. *Wonders if that flower is considered to be flying. ;D

Kehe. That flower zup or lìng (it there's hufwe) ;D

Slä... slä... krr a oel tsre'i rumit... rum tswayon, srak? Rum ke zup pxiye'rìn... Tse, syulang tswayon nìteng! Syulang ke tswayon txankrr, slä pum tswayon. :P
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

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Re: Na'vi Proverbs
« Reply #119 on: March 14, 2012, 01:33:26 pm »
Actually, I was thinking in terms of Trudy's line about not being the only things that fly out there, "or even the biggest." 8)
So her samson flies, yes?  It wouldn't be a native concept to the Na'vi, but they certainly must have acquired it. :)
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