Possible meanings of different Pandoran animals as Na'vi uniltaron totem animals

Started by Amaya, February 03, 2011, 08:33:02 PM

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Amaya

...and how one's totem animal reflects or impacts one's phsyche and personality


Okay, this grew out of the "Palulukan Makto" thread, and I figured we were getting away from the original topic, so I've created this thread for brainstorming on what the Na'vi might think the meanings of different animals were as far as what it means to be, for example, a person who has seen Palulukan, or a person who has seen talioang, etc.

Go wild, folks! ;D ;D ;D

Zanither

first.. thanks we were getting a little off topic :D

and second i'm thinking that:
Palulukan would be solitary and night orientated.(yeah palulukan is my fave)

Pa'li would be agile
hammerhead would be strong,  protective and territorial
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Amaya

pa'li might also be headstrong, or I somehow got that impression

ikran would likely be fierce but very loyal...

talioang probably simple (not dumb, just...very straightforward) and family-oriented...

Säfpìltu

Could you also explain how totems and spirit animals work in na'vi societies? I haven't seen a lot of it before I read posts in this and the Palulukan Makto thread...
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`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

That is a cultural question that we have almost no info on, and at this time can really only be answered by JC. So, we can speculate our heart's content and never know until we are told.

So far, I like the ideas expressed about different 'spirit animals'. (Mine is, beyond any doubt, palulukan.)

What do you think a  syaksyuk would represent?

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Amaya


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Quote from: Amaya on February 04, 2011, 12:07:12 AM
pa'li might also be headstrong, or I somehow got that impression

ikran would likely be fierce but very loyal...

talioang probably simple (not dumb, just...very straightforward) and family-oriented...

This is also a bit how I perceive things, although the pa'li would also evoke gentleness and swiftness to me. :)

Alyara Arati

Quote from: Ftxavanga Txe′lan on February 04, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: Amaya on February 04, 2011, 12:07:12 AM
pa'li might also be headstrong, or I somehow got that impression

ikran would likely be fierce but very loyal...

talioang probably simple (not dumb, just...very straightforward) and family-oriented...

This is also a bit how I perceive things, although the pa'li would also evoke gentleness and swiftness to me. :)

I agree.  Nantang would also be highly family-oriented and cunning, if I can use that word without bringing up negative connotations.
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Ftxavanga Txe′lan

Quote from: Alyara Arati on February 04, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: Ftxavanga Txe′lan on February 04, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: Amaya on February 04, 2011, 12:07:12 AM
pa'li might also be headstrong, or I somehow got that impression

ikran would likely be fierce but very loyal...

talioang probably simple (not dumb, just...very straightforward) and family-oriented...

This is also a bit how I perceive things, although the pa'li would also evoke gentleness and swiftness to me. :)

I agree.  Nantang would also be highly family-oriented and cunning, if I can use that word without bringing up negative connotations.

Definitely have to agree with this! I think these are very fit adjectives.

Zanither

Quote from: Ftxavanga Txe′lan on February 04, 2011, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: Alyara Arati on February 04, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: Ftxavanga Txe′lan on February 04, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: Amaya on February 04, 2011, 12:07:12 AM
pa'li might also be headstrong, or I somehow got that impression

ikran would likely be fierce but very loyal...

talioang probably simple (not dumb, just...very straightforward) and family-oriented...

This is also a bit how I perceive things, although the pa'li would also evoke gentleness and swiftness to me. :)

I agree.  Nantang would also be highly family-oriented and cunning, if I can use that word without bringing up negative connotations.

Definitely have to agree with this! I think these are very fit adjectives.


I too must agree...but to raise another question, how common are certain animals..

like we kind of know that getting toruk is uncommon evern rare(although I think getting toruk dosent dosen't mean you will or could be toruk makto)
but i think something like Ikran would be common..???




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Alyara Arati

Quote from: Zanither on February 05, 2011, 05:21:58 AM

I too must agree...but to raise another question, how common are certain animals..

like we kind of know that getting toruk is uncommon evern rare(although I think getting toruk dosent dosen't mean you will or could be toruk makto)
but i think something like Ikran would be common..???


We really haven't seen that many animals, just from the movie.  I would assume those shown to us would be either very common, very important, or both.  But I'm guessing that there would be more yerik and fan lizards as spirit animals than thanators or toruk.  And the Na'vi would doubtless have some positive aspects assigned to them, too.  Like maybe yerik represents grace and shyness.  I'm not sure what a glowing, spinning lizard suggests to me, but something fun.
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Ekirä

Quote from: Alyara Arati on February 05, 2011, 05:33:22 PM
We really haven't seen that many animals, just from the movie.  I would assume those shown to us would be either very common, very important, or both.  But I'm guessing that there would be more yerik and fan lizards as spirit animals than thanators or toruk.  And the Na'vi would doubtless have some positive aspects assigned to them, too.  Like maybe yerik represents grace and shyness.  I'm not sure what a glowing, spinning lizard suggests to me, but something fun.

I'd think maybe they represent freedom and innocence...... ::)

Dunno. XD

Zanither

lol.... i can see a bunch of Na'vi teens before getting their totems....
i'm gonna get toruk for sure'
'yeah for your giant mouth'
no way'
yeah'
'nah-uh'
yay-hu'
ect,ect


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John Watson: Now people will definitely talk.

Amaya

or "You're totally gonna get riti!"

"Hey no way, nantang all the way, man!"

"riti!"

"nantang!"

*growlhiss*

Alyara Arati

Quote from: Zanither on February 05, 2011, 09:04:57 PM
lol.... i can see a bunch of Na'vi teens before getting their totems....
i'm gonna get toruk for sure'
'yeah for your giant mouth'
no way'
yeah'
'nah-uh'
yay-hu'
ect,ect

Or muttering to self "just not a bug, kea hì'ang rutxe, not a bug..."

I was going to say "stingbat", but I seem to recall some non-movie source saying that some tribes keep them as pets, so a riti might not be such a bad spirit animal...spunky and night-wandering perhaps.
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Zanither

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`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

The physical commonness of a particular animal probably does not dictate how common it would be that someone would have that animal as their spirit animal. I think it is based on a person's character.

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Amaya

I agree with you for the most part, it's very likely more reflective of character than how often they see that "living" animal, except in the cases of the apex predators, who might be seen less often and also appear as a spirit animal less often, but in those cases it's just as likely that the "individualistic, fierce" traits they tend to represent are simply less common in na'vi society as a whole, meaning the relationship is tangential rather than direct.

Alyara Arati

Quote from: Amaya on February 07, 2011, 09:12:53 PM
I agree with you for the most part, it's very likely more reflective of character than how often they see that "living" animal, except in the cases of the apex predators, who might be seen less often and also appear as a spirit animal less often, but in those cases it's just as likely that the "individualistic, fierce" traits they tend to represent are simply less common in na'vi society as a whole, meaning the relationship is tangential rather than direct.

That's so well put!  I did not mean to imply that physical commonness would equate with frequency as a spirit animal, just that not everyone would have the right character to fit with whatever animals we view as the coolest.
Learn how to see.  Realize that everything connects to everything else.
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