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Offline Vawmataw

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The ''government'' and the spirituality
« on: August 21, 2015, 11:53:19 am »
The topic probably belongs a little bit to the Cameronian territory, but still, it's a good question.

On Earth, there are beliefs regarding the legitimacy of a monarch.

The divine right
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The divine right of kings or divine right is a political and religious doctrine of royal and political legitimacy. It asserts that a monarch is subject to no earthly authority, deriving the right to rule directly from the will of God. The king is thus not subject to the will of his people, the aristocracy, or any other estate of the realm, including (in the view of some, especially in Protestant countries or during the reign of Henry VIII of England) the Catholic Church. According to this doctrine, only God can judge an unjust king. The doctrine implies that any attempt to depose the king or to restrict his powers runs contrary to the will of God and may constitute a sacrilegious act. It is often expressed in the phrase "by the Grace of God," attached to the titles of a reigning monarch.

Mandate of Heaven
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The Mandate of Heaven is an ancient Chinese belief and philosophical idea that tiān (heaven) granted emperors the right to rule based on their ability to govern well and fairly.

Another beliefe would be that the strongest person and its descendants would take the throne until someone overrules the monarch.

There are problable other beliefs, but either they were not documented or I didn't find them.

How about the Na'vi?
It probably also depends on the clan.


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Re: The ''government'' and the spirituality
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2015, 12:12:56 pm »
It is hard to imagine that there haven't been power struggles from time to time in the Na'vi world. There is anecdotal evidence of this in the film, and strong hints at the existence of a justice system.

Much of what is discussed in this forum is Cameronian, and this is expected here. This is the place for it.

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Re: The ''government'' and the spirituality
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2015, 05:54:47 pm »
The divine right
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The divine right of kings or divine right is a political and religious doctrine of royal and political legitimacy. It asserts that a monarch is subject to no earthly authority, deriving the right to rule directly from the will of God. The king is thus not subject to the will of his people, the aristocracy, or any other estate of the realm, including (in the view of some, especially in Protestant countries or during the reign of Henry VIII of England) the Catholic Church. According to this doctrine, only God can judge an unjust king. The doctrine implies that any attempt to depose the king or to restrict his powers runs contrary to the will of God and may constitute a sacrilegious act. It is often expressed in the phrase "by the Grace of God," attached to the titles of a reigning monarch.

Mandate of Heaven
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The Mandate of Heaven is an ancient Chinese belief and philosophical idea that tiān (heaven) granted emperors the right to rule based on their ability to govern well and fairly.

I suppose for the Na’vi it would be Eywa who chooses. [/captain obvious]

EDIT: Recall the scene when Jake gets "chosen" by the ayatokirina’. Would that count?

There's also the whole deal with Toruk Makto. That might not count though.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2015, 06:02:06 pm by Kame Ayyo’koti »
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Re: The ''government'' and the spirituality
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2017, 12:44:03 pm »
Sounds like you are reflecting with concern upon the root structures of human tribalism when a leadership system becomes "bound" to root aspects of "Manifest Destiny" often tied to in some way to there perceived religious superiority over the "others" or the land itself ,,, to me its interesting to see how peoples that are often looked upon as by such groups as being savages in some way often have developed in there leadership structure systems , "recognition" of these very aspects that are the seed cause of so much inter-tribal conflict in the first place "learning from there past history" and they hold the ability to internally address them as a people ,, this is why I have tried to point them out here in the past ,,
The Haudenosaunee confederacy and there roots and structural community examples relating to the Great law of peace come to mind in this aspect, its also important to note monarchy's are usually very male dominated "patriarchal" in nature as well ,, The Haudenosaunee are core "matriarchal" and often talk about the importance of this in there leadership structures ,,  Avatar strongly reflects upon this as well and this symbolism is spoken upon

 

This example touches on the roots of the same issue its very important to note there people "see" things through different eyes ,,when they say "Creator" they are reflecting on a "Great creation force" not alliance to a God as we see it.


             
« Last Edit: November 29, 2017, 01:06:13 pm by allrock123 »

 

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