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Understanding the Na'vi
« on: May 29, 2016, 09:14:47 am »
The Na'vi are another alien species that are peaceful and right brained in nature. Just like the ancient humans, they worship their mother planet Eywa or in contrast, what We humans would call our planet, Gaia. Now-The Na'vi do not exist for they were just created for a film, but the species and idea itself is real on many levels, they are just called a different name. I believe that us Indigos like myself are the real Na'vi of the universe. We come from the Pleadian solar system. We were sent here by our leaders to help save this planet and the "Human race". To do that though, we would have to have our spirits born into a human body so we wouldn't frighten the world once we came.
The Indigo are very peaceful by nature. And as an Indigo, I would like for you to learn about us and see how similar we are to the concepts of the Na'vi.
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Re: Understanding the Na'vi
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2016, 03:42:29 pm »
This is really cool! I know what you mean by how the Na'vi, what they stand for and what kind of people they are, they're indeed real on many levels. I've tried to tell so many people this over the years outside of the internet. So many people out there just don't understand any of this. They just see things on the surface: they're a "fake" alien race "made up for a movie". That's so not even the point though. People who say the language and the people are fake completely don't get it. 1st of all the language is a real language by the very definition of a language, and the Na'vi people are real in the sense that their spirit and values can be found in many people on Earth.

Now off to check out how cool Indigo people are. :D

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Re: Understanding the Na'vi
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2016, 03:54:40 pm »
Haha I'm glad you enjoyed it! I'm definently going to explain more. Who Indigos are and why they are here. How they are similar to the Na'vi that we might as well call ourselves Na'vi too. How we can advance ourselves spiritually to who we are supposed to be. And how we can help Gaia and her inhabitants physically and spiritually :D
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Re: Understanding the Na'vi
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2016, 10:26:10 pm »
The Kogi of Columbia one of the few tribes not touched by colonization  ,, and there story of Aluna may also hold interest to fans of Avatar
here is some dialog they have to share as well as some aspects of there creation story ,, Aluna is in there perspective the "root" mother ,, somewhat like "Eywa" in Avatar.  there is a language struggle because the Kogi language includes expressions and strutures not reflected at all well in the English language.. Alan Ereira the films director spoke upon the profound impact of Avatar in opening peoples perspectives
to some of the principles and perceptions the Kogi mamos (shaman) have spoken about for generations , the film "Aluna" in one example.
(the reference to "younger brother" refers to "us" the people from across the sea in truth "people of our ethos perspective" its important to note someone edited the image and put keepers of the world text in it that's not the filmmakers work)       

 
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Re: Understanding the Na'vi
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2016, 05:17:22 am »
Lirerarilly, I understand the Na'vi as being an occurence of the "noble savage" archetype or stock character. The idea of the Noble Savage is that primitive peoples were pure and untainted by civilization and thus had qualities superior to colonialists and other "civilized" people. This pattern is apparent in Avatar as well as older works, like Dancing with the Wolves.

Of course the idea is romantic and sentimenal, and I personally believe that the archetype was a reaction of the western world to the colonialism and exploitation to them; after oppressing Africans, Native Americans etc, western world started looking at these "savages" in a more sympathetic light, perhaps in a kind of regret.

I believe that primitive peoples were usually as savage, ruthless and antagonistic as we civilized people are.

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Re: Understanding the Na'vi
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2016, 06:06:48 am »
There are some „pure" native tribes in South America. They're the ones who truly don't need anything from what we have.
The problem of this civilization is that in our subconsciousness we believe that money are necessary for living. And by ages, people got used to do terrible things for personal profit, so I believe that there are a few „pure" people unaffected by this.
Not all natives, for sure…

But one thing is sure: "You see...hidden within the unconscious is an insatiable desire for conflict." The social environment makes it stronger or weaker.
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Re: Understanding the Na'vi
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2016, 08:10:32 pm »
There are some „pure" native tribes in South America. They're the ones who truly don't need anything from what we have.
The problem of this civilization is that in our subconsciousness we believe that money are necessary for living. And by ages, people got used to do terrible things for personal profit, so I believe that there are a few „pure" people unaffected by this.
Not all natives, for sure…

But one thing is sure: "You see...hidden within the unconscious is an insatiable desire for conflict." The social environment makes it stronger or weaker.

some of these things fall under what some call "Human tribalism" though in honesty it was the ancestors of a number of native peoples in there deep past history that "recognized" these primal source reactions and , and they addressed them from a spiritual perception of reality (Many religious strutures have been abused to forward the agendas at the roots of human tribalism,, I can strongly suggest people take a core look at the History of very real Haudenosaunee people there past history when they fought each other "Surprisingly called the time of great sorrow by some of there storytellers" long before our people came to North America on ships,, How they core addressed the roots of there conflict issues and developed ways to break "internally" the conflict circles running under them are a real eye opener for many Avatar fans ,, look at examples on youtube by "Jake swamp" and "oren lyons"  while I don't care for the somewhat annoying narration a quick history is presented here in two parts (Follow the thread to part 2)
(I will add an important note take a look at the symbol on Jigonsaseh's headband she is a member of what nation ?) 
           Hiawatha - I: The Great Law of Peace - Extra History



Part 2:Hiawatha - II: Government for the People - Extra History

 
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Re: Understanding the Na'vi
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2018, 08:45:53 am »
EN:Indigos are from the pleaden?

DE:Indigos sind von den Pleaden?
You are usesing lenition when
you want to talk about two or
more of the same things

example: one tsmukan 2 or 3 or more than 4 (smukan)

(Kx > k) (K > H)

(Px > P)  (P >F)

(Tx > T) (TS > S)

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Re: Understanding the Na'vi
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2018, 08:57:03 am »
This is really cool! I know what you mean by how the Na'vi, what they stand for and what kind of people they are, they're indeed real on many levels. I've tried to tell so many people this over the years outside of the internet. So many people out there just don't understand any of this. They just see things on the surface: they're a "fake" alien race "made up for a movie". That's so not even the point though. People who say the language and the people are fake completely don't get it. 1st of all the language is a real language by the very definition of a language, and the Na'vi people are real in the sense that their spirit and values can be found in many people on Earth.

Now off to check out how cool Indigo people are. :D

The world of Avatar uses the expression structure of very well researched  "Mirror storytelling" to "reflect" from the heart source examples of our own Peoples what also makes the film so unique is it "reflects" these examples from a place of heartfelt "seeing" If one study's native culture and the structure of sacred medicine story's one will better understand "why the film internally resonates so strongly" Avatar takes place in a "future" setting ,, it takes common perspectives used in Sci-fi films and "Flips them in the mirror"  We are going to Start with the word "Alien" in many Sci-fi films its the "Aliens" (A Us and Them struture "label" our people  impose to define "them") that "invade" Earth . Avatar in its core examples -(Flips the mirror around and forces The moviegoer to look at ourselves and our source code and "See" aspects own reflection from or deep source memory's) it places "US" in the role of The "Aliens" on there world this is very important so much so that James Cameron even Core changed some of the films root dialog drive point home  when Jake was introduced to his Avatar body at the start of the film it was orignaly ,, from they take the DNA of the human and the Alien it was changed to They take the DNA of the human and the "natives" (Na'vi is "Native" missing what two letters ?)  there is a "medicine statement" made by native storyteller that goes like this " In the reality of many reality's ,,, how we "see", what we see effects the "quality" of our reality" (Our perspective of reality is not fixed in stone and we can change and evolve upon it) The fantasy Na'vi people even though they have there own "unique"
cultural Identity "reflect" often non verbally through there demonstrated actions and expression spaces and our internal understanding as a "human being, "Recognizes" aspects of this and The core Values these examples stand for ,, it resonates then we internally reflect upon it in relation to our own "very real" tangible peoples and History  for some and drives some very powerful deep internal questions that are a unique and deeply personal transformative experience for each person in recognition there are some very powerful life changing story's out there and what they come to discover.. Avatar also reflects on the power of Shared Dreams Take a look at the Achur people on youtube to better understand these aspects but this example from Emory University is quite interesting as well   ,,   
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