NotW #32: Puvomun

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Yayo

Haha, at least my post looks somewhat formal now.
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Maria TunVrrtep

Quote from: Tirea Aean on November 25, 2010, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on November 25, 2010, 10:24:50 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on November 24, 2010, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: Plumps on November 24, 2010, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on November 24, 2010, 10:17:52 AMThat may explain why I have "pamrelyu" in my signature. "Writer".
Hm, I could be wrong but since pamrel is a noun, I think it should be pamreltu ;)
Could well be. I put this in very long ago, knowing hardly a thing about Na'vi, and so far nobody commented on that, so I assumed it to be correct ;)

Either pamreltu or pamrelsiyu....



Now THAT is the question..;)

In this situation I would think that pamreltu would be correct. 
Pamrel = Write
So according to the NiaN ...
QuoteThe suffix -tu attaches to a noun to mean the person who does/makes the noun, similar to
the way -yu works on verbs:
visual art reltseo → reltseotu artist (one who makes visual art)
part hapxì → hapxìtu member
Then pamreltu should be the correct word.

ta TunVrrtep
"Ke'u ke lu law a krr frakem tsunslu." -
    Margaret Drabble
("When nothing is sure, everything is possible.")



Tirea Aean

Quote from: TunVrrtep on November 26, 2010, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on November 25, 2010, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on November 25, 2010, 10:24:50 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on November 24, 2010, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: Plumps on November 24, 2010, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on November 24, 2010, 10:17:52 AMThat may explain why I have "pamrelyu" in my signature. "Writer".
Hm, I could be wrong but since pamrel is a noun, I think it should be pamreltu ;)
Could well be. I put this in very long ago, knowing hardly a thing about Na'vi, and so far nobody commented on that, so I assumed it to be correct ;)

Either pamreltu or pamrelsiyu....



Now THAT is the question..;)

In this situation I would think that pamreltu would be correct. 
Pamrel = Write
So according to the NiaN ...
QuoteThe suffix -tu attaches to a noun to mean the person who does/makes the noun, similar to
the way -yu works on verbs:
visual art reltseo → reltseotu artist (one who makes visual art)
part hapxì → hapxìtu member
Then pamreltu should be the correct word.

ta TunVrrtep


but then how do you explain tsamsiyu and not tsamtu?

Maria TunVrrtep

Quote from: Tirea Aean on November 26, 2010, 04:39:05 PM
Quote from: TunVrrtep on November 26, 2010, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on November 25, 2010, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on November 25, 2010, 10:24:50 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on November 24, 2010, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: Plumps on November 24, 2010, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on November 24, 2010, 10:17:52 AMThat may explain why I have "pamrelyu" in my signature. "Writer".
Hm, I could be wrong but since pamrel is a noun, I think it should be pamreltu ;)
Could well be. I put this in very long ago, knowing hardly a thing about Na'vi, and so far nobody commented on that, so I assumed it to be correct ;)

Either pamreltu or pamrelsiyu....



Now THAT is the question..;)

In this situation I would think that pamreltu would be correct. 
Pamrel = Write
So according to the NiaN ...
QuoteThe suffix -tu attaches to a noun to mean the person who does/makes the noun, similar to
the way -yu works on verbs:
visual art reltseo → reltseotu artist (one who makes visual art)
part hapxì → hapxìtu member
Then pamreltu should be the correct word.

ta TunVrrtep


but then how do you explain tsamsiyu and not tsamtu?

Tsam is War.  A Warrior (Tsamsiyu) is one who makes war.  However, making war and making food are different.  Food is tangible whereas war is not.  Yes you can touch the things you use to make war like guns or bows and arrows, but you can't really touch war. 
The -yu ending attaches to the end of a verb to make a noun.  The -tu ending attaches to the end of a noun to make a person who does that noun.  So, since a warrior makes war, he's doing a verb.  Hence the -yu ending instead of the -tu ending. 
In other words you can make art but you can't art.  However you can make war on another person. 
That's my take at least. 
After being an English major in college for a whole semester.  HRH

ta TunVrrtep
"Ke'u ke lu law a krr frakem tsunslu." -
    Margaret Drabble
("When nothing is sure, everything is possible.")



Ekirä

Quote from: TunVrrtep on November 26, 2010, 06:17:15 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on November 26, 2010, 04:39:05 PM
but then how do you explain tsamsiyu and not tsamtu?

Tsam is War.  A Warrior (Tsamsiyu) is one who makes war.  However, making war and making food are different.  Food is tangible whereas war is not.  Yes you can touch the things you use to make war like guns or bows and arrows, but you can't really touch war. 
The -yu ending attaches to the end of a verb to make a noun.  The -tu ending attaches to the end of a noun to make a person who does that noun.  So, since a warrior makes war, he's doing a verb.  Hence the -yu ending instead of the -tu ending. 
In other words you can make art but you can't art.  However you can make war on another person. 
That's my take at least. 
After being an English major in college for a whole semester.  HRH

ta TunVrrtep

But tsamtu still makes sense, it's a person who wars. And IMO it makes more sense than tsamsiyu, which would be a person that makes/does war, instead of just wars. I dunno. :P

Tirea Aean

#45
Quote from: TunVrrtep on November 26, 2010, 06:17:15 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on November 26, 2010, 04:39:05 PM
Quote from: TunVrrtep on November 26, 2010, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on November 25, 2010, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on November 25, 2010, 10:24:50 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on November 24, 2010, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: Plumps on November 24, 2010, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on November 24, 2010, 10:17:52 AMThat may explain why I have "pamrelyu" in my signature. "Writer".
Hm, I could be wrong but since pamrel is a noun, I think it should be pamreltu ;)
Could well be. I put this in very long ago, knowing hardly a thing about Na'vi, and so far nobody commented on that, so I assumed it to be correct ;)

Either pamreltu or pamrelsiyu....



Now THAT is the question..;)

In this situation I would think that pamreltu would be correct. 
Pamrel = Write
So according to the NiaN ...
QuoteThe suffix -tu attaches to a noun to mean the person who does/makes the noun, similar to
the way -yu works on verbs:
visual art reltseo → reltseotu artist (one who makes visual art)
part hapxì → hapxìtu member
Then pamreltu should be the correct word.

ta TunVrrtep


but then how do you explain tsamsiyu and not tsamtu?

Tsam is War.  A Warrior (Tsamsiyu) is one who makes war.  However, making war and making food are different.  Food is tangible whereas war is not.  Yes you can touch the things you use to make war like guns or bows and arrows, but you can't really touch war. 
The -yu ending attaches to the end of a verb to make a noun.  The -tu ending attaches to the end of a noun to make a person who does that noun.  So, since a warrior makes war, he's doing a verb.  Hence the -yu ending instead of the -tu ending. 
In other words you can make art but you can't art.  However you can make war on another person. 
That's my take at least. 
After being an English major in college for a whole semester.  HRH

ta TunVrrtep

Ode to using English logic. :p

does "me is ikran" make sense in english? no it doesnt. but "oeru lu ikran" does in Na'vi

applying English grammar logic and rules to Na'vi is dangerous.

zineketaye

#46
Shouldn't we have a look on the "si" in tsamsiyu?
And despite we do not have tsam si in the dictionary and in everyday use, it would make sense, wouldn't it?

And with pamrel si for "writing" present in the dictionary and in common use, what about neither pamreltu nor pamrelyu, but pamrelsiyu? OK, that's logic from Earth again  ;D ???

Edit: Maybe pamrelsiyu could be something like "writer" and pamreltu in the line if "author"  :P
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Puvomun

#47
Quote from: zineketaye on November 26, 2010, 07:24:18 PM
Edit: Maybe pamrelsiyu could be something like "writer" and pamreltu in the line if "author"  :P
Interestingly, I had pamrelsiyu in my sig for a long long time, because of the example with tsamsiyu.
But "writing make person" vs. "writing person" (pamrelsiyu vs. pamreltu) to me, comes down to the same, more or less.
But this is my before-coffee morning take on this.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Yayo

/off topic.
Speaking of coffee; I made an Iced Coffee today as it was around 40 degrees (c).
/on topic.

"Puvomum is crazy because all of the best people are".

Congratulations. Unfortunately, your week long 15 minutes is nearly over.  :( :'(


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Puvomun

Quote from: Yayo Seykxel on November 28, 2010, 06:27:14 AM
/off topic.
Speaking of coffee; I made an Iced Coffee today as it was around 40 degrees (c).
/on topic.

"Puvomum is crazy because all of the best people are".

Congratulations. Unfortunately, your week long 15 minutes is nearly over.  :( :'(
40C. Yes, you have summer now. I woke up to -7C here, and when I went to see my Dad at 1pm it was -2C. Had ice on the car too, which is less amusing.

Crazy rules, for me! ;D

And oh well, it were a fun 15 minutes. :-) I still have a few hours to bask in the feeling, and there will be a next NotW.  I promise.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Puvomun

Nobody worry please, if the new NotW is not taking over at midnight European time. Around 7am UTC the switch will happen. It is around then also that this topic will be locked.

End of this household message, you can return to your scheduled flamethrowing now.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Nusumea Tirea

We don't do that flamethrowing here. Not good for the trees  ;)

Puvomun

Quote from: Nusumea Tirea on November 28, 2010, 02:35:12 PM
We don't do that flamethrowing here. Not good for the trees  ;)
Oh. Oops. I think I copied the wrong note. Sowwy.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Puvomun

My final message, be it a bit late.

Well, here are the ngay sì tsleng to the three crazy statements

True or false?
1. I have jumped out of a perfectly safe airplane while it was flying.
Ngay.
I have done some skydiving:

Srane, I was much younger then!

2. I've been to Albania.
Tsleng.
Even though this country is in Europe, I have never been there. Closest I got to Albania was writing about a gang of bad guys who came from there, in a story I did with some other people. But that doesn't count.

3. I once knocked someone out of a tree by throwing a club at him.
Ngay.
When I was in the army, I had managed to never be present at the fire-arm shooting stuff, so when I had to do night guard duty I did not get a gun to guard the military base, but they handed me a club. During that time "we" had a lot of trouble from people climbing over the fences and spray-painting all the tanks and trucks. My military mate, who had a gun with him, and I discovered one of those people in a tree as he tried to get on the base. I told the man to come down or else my mate would shoot him down. My mate asked if I was crazy. The man did not want to come out of the tree so I flung the club at him. And hit. To my surprise he fell from the tree (onto the grass, and it was not high) and so we picked him up and took him to the man in stripes, who was in charge of the night guards.

There I got a reprimande because I had not brought the club back. Urgh.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.