Spring Vocabulary, Part 3

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Spring Vocabulary, Part 3



Source: Spring Vocabulary, Part 3

[Yawne Zize’ite]

Txilte Rinisì täpare fìtsap nìsoaia, slä tsalsungay ke nìolo' takrra Rini muntxa slolu.
'Txilte and Rini are related by blood, but nevertheless not by clan since the time Rini got married.'

So, Naʼvi clans can be exogamous (they marry members of other clans), and women join their husband's clan. Something I didn't know hidden in the vocabulary examples!

[Plumps]

Interesting cultural tidbit ... however, this sentence came directly from the LEP committee. Maybe we shouldn't take the implications for that too wide ... it's an example sentence tha should illustrate the use of so'ha.

[Toruk Makto]

Vol as the <ol> form of vll? I thought vol was eight. Confusing.

[Kemaweyan]

Vol as the <ol> form of vll? I thought vol was eight. Confusing.

Txantsana catch! Eltur tìtxen si.

[wm.annis]

Vol as the <ol> form of vll? I thought vol was eight. Confusing.

Vol is also eight.  It's only confusing in isolation.  Somehow English speakers always keep the meanings of /tu/ straight between "to", "too" and "two."

[Toruk Makto]

I guess I was just hoping Na'vi wouldn't get into that. 

[wm.annis]

I guess I was just hoping Na'vi wouldn't get into that. 

Why?  The two vols could only ever be confused if, for some reason, a complete stranger walked up to you on the street, uttered just that syllable, and walked away.  That's just not how communication works in practice.

[Swoka Swizaw]

I guess I was just hoping Na'vi wouldn't get into that. 

Alright, how often are you (or anyone) going to use vol to indicate (no pun intended) "eight" versus "...has indicated/pointed out"? It's all context, anyway, baby!

[Plumps]

I'm just surprised that it's the bare form ‹ol›, I thought infixes never get stressed.

Vol as the <ol> form of vll? I thought vol was eight. Confusing.

Vol is also eight.  It's only confusing in isolation.  Somehow English speakers always keep the meanings of /tu/ straight between "to", "too" and "two."

I'm reminded of Adele's "Someone like you" ... one line says "I wish nothing but the best for you /tu/" ... I always understood it as "you two" ... everyone else disagrees with me

[Yawne Zize’ite]

IIRC, numbers are adjectives, so vol "eight" in use should appear as vola or avol.

[Toruk Makto]

Hmmm, I don't know about that. I guess it depends the mathematical philosophy of the Na'vi. Do they regard numbers as entities? Would that be another Cameron question?

[Kemaweyan]

I found a new word in Pawl's comment:

  Mengeyä aylì'u oeru teya si. Fula horen sì aylì'fyavi amip lesar sayi mengar oeti nitram 'eykefu nìtxan.

I guess it means something like «come in handy»

[Blue Elf]

IIRC, numbers are adjectives, so vol "eight" in use should appear as vola or avol.

This. IMO there is very small chance of confusion, vol without -a- should be always verb.

[Tanri]

I'm just surprised that it's the bare form ‹ol›, I thought infixes never get stressed.

This interests me as well. But I think this is not related to stress, but to the l+ll assimilation. rr and ll need consonant onset, thus "voll" is illegal combination.
I am comfortable with idea that Karyu Pawl selected the vol variant rather to inserting some consonant to make ll fit.

[wm.annis]

We've had an interesting issue for a while regarding the causatives sleyku and 'eykefu.  Back in 2010 someone got email from Paul with sleyku X-ti ADJ for "make X feel ADJ."  However, at about the same time, some people started using the causative of 'efu basically the same way.

In a comment on this post, Paul uses 'eykefu for what I think is the first time, fula... oeti nitram 'eykefu nìtxan.

[Kemaweyan]

You're right. But I think.. we could feel free about this. 'Efu nitram, slu nitram.. probably there is no difference. Just say as it's comfortably to you

['Oma Tirea]

Vll + <ol> = vol... nì'it hek.  I always thought stressed syllables collapse to just the pseudovowel.  Tse, exception to the rule?