Tsan’erul, Fe’erul—Getting Better, Getting Worse

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Tsan'erul, Fe'erul—Getting Better, Getting Worse

Here are some useful expressions for improvement and its opposite.

tsan'ul (vin., TSAN.'ul—inf. 2, 2) 'improve, get better'

fe'ul (vin., FE.'ul—inf. 2, 2) 'worsen, get worse'

These are compounds built on 'ul, 'increase,' along with the adjectives for good and bad. (Sìltsan here has shortened to tsan.) So "improve" increases the good, "worsen" increases the bad.

Notice that these verbs are intransitive—that is, something is improving or worsening. We'll get to the transitive versions (to improve something or make something worse) in just a moment.

Examples:

          Lì'fyari leNa'vi nga tsan'ereiul fratrr. [AUDIO=http://naviteri.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/1-Lìfyari.mp3]listen[/AUDIO]
          'I'm delighted that your Na'vi is improving every day.'

          Sawtuteri tìfkeytok ke tsan'olul kaw'it. [AUDIO=http://naviteri.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2-Sawtuteri.mp3]listen[/AUDIO]
          'The situation with the Skypeople hasn't improved one bit.'

          Ke tsun oe tslivam teyngta tìrusol peyä lumpe fe'ul krra oe tìng mikyun. [AUDIO=http://naviteri.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/3-Ke-tsun.mp3]listen[/AUDIO]
          'I can't understand why her singing gets worse when I listen.'

Derivations:

tìtsan'ul (n., tì.TSAN.'ul) 'improvement (in the general or abstract sense)'

tìfe'ul (n., tì.FE.'ul) 'worsening (in the general or abstract sense)'

          Tskxekengluke ke lu kea tìtsan'ul. [AUDIO=http://naviteri.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/4-Tskxekengluke.mp3]listen[/AUDIO]
          'Without practice there is no improvement.'

          Tìtsan'ulìri lu ngaru aysämok srak? [AUDIO=http://naviteri.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/5-Tìtsanulìri.mp3]listen[/AUDIO]
          'Do you have any suggestions for improvement?'

sätsan'ul (n., sä.TSAN.'ul) 'improvement (specific instance)'

säfe'ul (n., sä.FE.'ul) 'worsening (specific instance)'

          Set plltxe nga nìltsan nìngay. Fìsätsan'ulìri ngeyä lu oeru sko haryu nrra. [AUDIO=http://naviteri.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/6-Set.mp3]listen[/AUDIO]
          'You speak really well now. As your teacher, I'm proud of your improvement.'

          Peyä sängä'änìri lu säfe'ul leyewla nìtxan. [AUDIO=http://naviteri.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/7-Peyä.mp3]listen[/AUDIO]
          'The worsening of his depression is very disappointing.'

The transitive versions of improve and worsen simply use the causative infix : tsan'eykul, fe'eykul. (Stress, of course, remains on the first syllable in each case.) To improve something is to cause it to get better, etc.

          Rutxe fìtìoeyktìngit tsan'eykivul. Ke lu law kaw'it. [AUDIO=http://naviteri.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/8-Rutxe.mp3]listen[/AUDIO]
          'Please improve this explanation. It's not at all clear.'

          Ngeyä tsaylì'ul tìfkeytokit fe'eykolul nì'aw. [AUDIO=http://naviteri.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/9-Ngeyä.mp3]listen[/AUDIO]
          'Those words of yours have only made the situation worse.'

Sìlpey oe, ayngari fra'u a mì sìrey vivar tsan'ivul frafya, ma eylan. :)

frafya (adv., FRA.fya) 'in every way'


Source: Tsan'erul, Fe'erul—Getting Better, Getting Worse
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Tìtstewan

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21/01/2015 I have fixed this thread.



Well, here the Bot works, but like a syaksyuk ;D
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Quote from: Tìtstewan on March 06, 2013, 10:19:56 AM
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You can do it by yourself.
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Quote from: Kameyu a Kepekmì on March 06, 2013, 12:28:27 PM
Quote from: Tìtstewan on March 06, 2013, 10:19:56 AM
May a mod might change the title / removing the question mark?
You can do it by yourself.
No I can't, because I'm not a moderator here.

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