Avatar 3D now available on Blu-ray - with select Panasonic products

[Kerame Pxel Nume]

I hear that this Panasonic 3D blu ray is the theatrical bare-bones edition and that it's stored on a regular 50GB disc. I'm going to wait for the release of the collector's edition in 3D on 100GB discs.

Dito, although I'm only interested in the movie part being 3D then (but all versions, i.e. theatrical, extended and collectors version). It's very unlikely that any of the extras material on discs 2 and 3 saw a stereoscopic treatment.

[Eyawng te Klltepayu]

Dito, although I'm only interested in the movie part being 3D then (but all versions, i.e. theatrical, extended and collectors version). It's very unlikely that any of the extras material on discs 2 and 3 saw a stereoscopic treatment.

I hope (perhaps in vain) that some of the deleted scenes may be in 3D. They did film everything in 3D, after all...

[Ftiafpi]

Dito, although I'm only interested in the movie part being 3D then (but all versions, i.e. theatrical, extended and collectors version). It's very unlikely that any of the extras material on discs 2 and 3 saw a stereoscopic treatment.

I hope (perhaps in vain) that some of the deleted scenes may be in 3D. They did film everything in 3D, after all...

Oooh, I never considered this...Hmmmm, well, all their pre-vis stuff was rendered for 3D viewing so it's possible they could have included it for those. Something tells me they didn't, though. It seems like it would still be a decent amount of effort to include for little benefit. Oh well, we can hope, though. As for the live action sections, I highly doubt it. I imagine that there's lots of tweaking and editing that goes on between the actual shot and the final 3D effect. Who knows though, maybe it's really easy and everything will be in 3D? Oooh, 3D menus anyone?

[Txantslusam Skxawng]

I saw and advert today ( for an Dutch store ) a Panasonice 3D TV with Blu-ray player + Avatar for €1299,-  ( No 3D-glasses included )

This is very sad only.

And another one, almost the same + blu-ray player + Avatar, screen was 20 cm bigger and you get 2 3D glasses with it for only €2245,-

[Ftiafpi]

http://gizmodo.com/5713263/avatar-3d-blu+rays-wont-be-available-for-sale-until-2012-thanks-to-panasonics-greed

I'm going to hurt someone at Fox.

[Kì'eyawn]

http://gizmodo.com/5713263/avatar-3d-blu+rays-wont-be-available-for-sale-until-2012-thanks-to-panasonics-greed

I'm going to hurt someone at Fox.

Ìley!!! 

[Seze]

I wonder how much Panisonic had to pay Fox for this lucrative deal.  This is sad, very sad only.

[Ftiafpi]

I wonder how much Panisonic had to pay Fox for this lucrative deal.  This is sad, very sad only.

Probably an absurd amount of money considering that this would easily become the #1 3D movie if it wasn't for this. GAH!! I just don't understand!! Doing this is just going to bury 3D. It's like they desperately want to push 3D yet do everything they can to make everyone hate the format.

[Eyamsiyu]

What all this proves is how the greed of money can destroy great entertainment and art.  Not to mention bad marketing techniques.

Avatar in 3D was going to be HUGE for the market.  Panasonic probably knew this and wanted the money for themselves, so they paid some money for the exclusive rights to give away the discs with their TVs.

Frankly, both Fox and Panasonic will probably lose a lot of money because of this.  Once again, greed destroys good judgement.

Either way, I myself am not prepared to have 3D in my own home, frankly.  Maybe in a year or two, but not now.

[Lisa]

I wonder how much Panisonic had to pay Fox for this lucrative deal.  This is sad, very sad only.

Probably an absurd amount of money considering that this would easily become the #1 3D movie if it wasn't for this. GAH!! I just don't understand!! Doing this is just going to bury 3D. It's like they desperately want to push 3D yet do everything they can to make everyone hate the format.

I thought this comment was particularly insightful:

Yeah, the 3DTV manufacturers are just trying their hardest to kill the format before it's even taken off. There are very few 3D Blu-Rays available for purchase, and not from lack of available 3D movies - it's because each 3D Blu-Ray is tied to a specific manufacturer. Of 25 3D movies coming out on Blu-Ray this holiday season, only two are going on sale! The rest are only available for people buying a brand new TV or Blu-Ray player.

Panasonic, why would I ever want to buy your 3DTV? Sure, I could get Avatar...but if I want How to Train Your Dragon or Monsters vs Aliens, I have to buy Samsung. If I want the new Alice in Wonderland, I have to buy Sony. If there's not a lot of content I have access to, I won't buy the setup, and all these exclusive deals are guaranteeing there won't be a lot of content.

If this is the way 3D television is going to go, then I want no part of it.  A pox on both your houses, Fox and Panasonic!   

[Ftiafpi]

Ugh, I agree with both of you but, unfortunately, I will have a 3D setup in my home pretty soon. Not a TV but I already have a 3D capable LCD computer monitor and when I build my new gaming PC early next year I'm going to get a 3D nvidia kit for it as well as a blue-ray drive. I was hoping to be able to watch Avatar in 3D on it at some point but I guess I'll be waiting for over a year.

A great quote when it comes to entertainment is content is king. If there's no content that people want to watch then what's the point of a 3D tv? If there's no reason to buy 3D then the prices will remain ridiculously high, the TVs wont sell very well, and companies will stop trying to push it because it. I'm sure we'll still have 3D in movies since most theaters are already setup for that but if you ask me this is going to kill the home theater market. Ugh, it's the same problem with all these crappy post-3D conversions for theater releases of movies. It's just everyone trying to cash in now before it dies, which just makes it die faster. You'd think that more people in the industry would have the foresight to try to make this technology as accessible as possible, get a 3D TV in as many homes as possible, and then flood the market with good content so that people are willing to regularly give away $10 more a movie just because it's the 3D version.

I mean, if you look at a lot of great successes like netflix or whatever, they really stuck it big because they gave people a lot for their money. Consequently, EVERYONE dived onto the service because it was such a good deal, and thus they made tons of money because their service was so affordable.

Oh, and then you also have the people selling the Avatar 3D copies on ebay. That's money that Panasonic and Fox will never see. You'd think they'd realize that, if anything, they're the ones getting screwed here the most. One nice thing though is the prices of Avatar on ebay seem to be coming down but I'm sure you're still going to have trouble finding a 3D version for less than $100.

Ugh, okay, I'm done ranting now. *goes off grumbling about stupid people*

[Toruk Makto]

I just hate that people are yelling that Cameron is behind this. I really doubt he had anything to do with it.

[Ftiafpi]

I just hate that people are yelling that Cameron is behind this. I really doubt he had anything to do with it.

Yup, something tells me this is all Fox's idea.

[Kì'eyawn]

I just hate that people are yelling that Cameron is behind this. I really doubt he had anything to do with it.

Yup, something tells me this is all Fox's idea.

Considering what Karyu Pawl said about Cameron's reaction to the ASG...yeah, i expect so.  This has "Corporate Greed" written all over it.

Fortunately, via Avatar Cameron got to tell Fox exactly what he thinks of that sort of thing! 

[Eyawng te Klltepayu]

Considering what Karyu Pawl said about Cameron's reaction to the ASG...

This is news to me! What did he say?  

Any information about Cameron's reaction to merchandise he considers sub-par is welcome in my ears. This will justify my belief that certain things are only semi-canonical.

[Eyamsiyu]

Eywang, I never read anything myself about it recently, but if memory serves correctly, he was not pleased with it.  I mean, to put it bluntly, Pandora and Avatar is James Cameron's creation.  He has had this idea for ~10 years.

Again, this is against the exact message that Cameron speaks against, and I would seriously doubt that he had any say in this.  I wouldn't be surprised if he went on a mutant rampage in Fox's building (though he probably didn't destroy anything).

[Kì'eyawn]

Considering what Karyu Pawl said about Cameron's reaction to the ASG...

This is news to me! What did he say?  

Any information about Cameron's reaction to merchandise he considers sub-par is welcome in my ears. This will justify my belief that certain things are only semi-canonical.

Well, i need to tread lightly on this topic...

The gist of the conversation with Karyu Pawl was that he was never consulted on the ASG, didn't even know it was being written.  He bought himself a copy off of Amazon , read it...and was, well, let's go with "disappointed." 

But when we were talking about this, he made a statement (and i'm sorry i don't remember the details) that Cameron had no input into or knowledge of the ASG either.  It was purely a Corporate decision to push more merchandise out the door.

***to the others who were at the Ultxa Haryuä, anybody remember more of this conversation?  Also, mods, feel free to redact this as necessary if there's any concern for Karyu Pawl's good standing with Fox***

[Eyawng te Klltepayu]

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[Ftiafpi]

Considering what Karyu Pawl said about Cameron's reaction to the ASG...

This is news to me! What did he say?  

Any information about Cameron's reaction to merchandise he considers sub-par is welcome in my ears. This will justify my belief that certain things are only semi-canonical.

Well, i need to tread lightly on this topic...

The gist of the conversation with Karyu Pawl was that he was never consulted on the ASG, didn't even know it was being written.  He bought himself a copy off of Amazon , read it...and was, well, let's go with "disappointed." 

But when we were talking about this, he made a statement (and i'm sorry i don't remember the details) that Cameron had no input into or knowledge of the ASG either.  It was purely a Corporate decision to push more merchandise out the door.

***to the others who were at the Ultxa Haryuä, anybody remember more of this conversation?  Also, mods, feel free to redact this as necessary if there's any concern for Karyu Pawl's good standing with Fox***

That sounds about right, but remember, this was all word of mouth and could have just been Frommer's guess or could be hard fact. Let's not take it as such, but I think it's safe to assume that Cameron didn't have anything to do with the ASG (though, like the word list, I suspect it comes from valid sources).

[Human No More]

Considering what Karyu Pawl said about Cameron's reaction to the ASG...

This is news to me! What did he say?  

Any information about Cameron's reaction to merchandise he considers sub-par is welcome in my ears. This will justify my belief that certain things are only semi-canonical.

Well, i need to tread lightly on this topic...

The gist of the conversation with Karyu Pawl was that he was never consulted on the ASG, didn't even know it was being written.  He bought himself a copy off of Amazon , read it...and was, well, let's go with "disappointed." 

But when we were talking about this, he made a statement (and i'm sorry i don't remember the details) that Cameron had no input into or knowledge of the ASG either.  It was purely a Corporate decision to push more merchandise out the door.

***to the others who were at the Ultxa Haryuä, anybody remember more of this conversation?  Also, mods, feel free to redact this as necessary if there's any concern for Karyu Pawl's good standing with Fox***

Interesting, but I already understood the language in it was not official (Paul Frommer is the only canon source for the language), and since all the details of what's on Pandora had already been worked out and the book was simply written from the already created detail, I don't see any problem as long as it doesn't contradict anything in Avatar 2.