ISO Code!

Taronyu · November 09, 2011, 05:57:55 PM

Looks like we might soon have an official ISO code. This is basically an identifier for the language that is used to mean Na'vi, and only Na'vi, to databases, linguists, etc. I know for a fact that it will be easier to get web admins to allow translation into Na'vi with an ISO code (I've checked with CouchSurfing, for instance.)

http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/chg_detail.asp?id=2011-035&lang=nvi

Wou!

xelloss · November 09, 2011, 06:05:41 PM

Kaltxì ma Taronyu

TXANTSAN NANG oe peng !!!

'Ivong Na'vi !

Nyx · November 09, 2011, 06:27:48 PM

Man, this has been in the works for centuries! Nice to hear there's progress

Tsmuktengan · November 09, 2011, 06:37:50 PM

I hope this is a first stone for a great and solid building. Great initiative.

'Ivong Na'vi!

bommel · November 09, 2011, 11:52:47 PM

Quote from: Nyx on November 09, 2011, 06:27:48 PM
Man, this has been in the works for centuries! Nice to hear there's progress

yeah, it's cool!

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä · November 10, 2011, 03:08:24 AM

Txantsan nìwotx nang

I saw another interesting site, similar to Mightyverse the other day, which could use some Na'vi words. However, they are organized around ISO codes, so this would be the 'foot in the door' for Na'vi!

Tsmuktengan · November 10, 2011, 08:43:07 AM

Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on November 10, 2011, 03:08:24 AM
Txantsan nìwotx nang

I saw another interesting site, similar to Mightyverse the other day, which could use some Na'vi words. However, they are organized around ISO codes, so this would be the 'foot in the door' for Na'vi!

I don't think I understood. Could you explain?

Talis · November 10, 2011, 09:40:29 AM

ke tsleram kop oel tsat. peu lu fì'u?

Sherilyn · November 10, 2011, 09:50:05 AM

WOOO!

SRANE!

Ftiafpi · November 10, 2011, 11:37:16 AM

Wou!!!!

Now we can do some really interesting stuff. Facebook translated into Na'vi! GO!

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä · November 10, 2011, 03:19:13 PM

Quote from: Tsmuktengan on November 10, 2011, 08:43:07 AM
Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on November 10, 2011, 03:08:24 AM
Txantsan nìwotx nang

I saw another interesting site, similar to Mightyverse the other day, which could use some Na'vi words. However, they are organized around ISO codes, so this would be the 'foot in the door' for Na'vi!

I don't think I understood. Could you explain?

Here is one such site http://www.forvo.com/ This is a cool site, like Mightyverse on steroids (but Mightyverse has phrases instead of just words) If you look at their language list, you will see that each and every language there has an ISO code. So although it may be possible to get a Na'vi section started there, you probably are going to have a hard time until Na'vi has its ISO code. (BTW, for those of you who don't know, ISO means 'International Standards Organization'.)

In a lot of ways, an ISO code makes Na'vi an officially recognized language, a distinction (at least for conlangs) that is shared (as far as I know) only with Esperanto and Klingon.

Tsmuktengan · November 10, 2011, 03:24:32 PM

This is very interesting. I guess this is food for thought about possible Na'vi expansion.

Talis · November 10, 2011, 04:44:08 PM

Facebook nìna'vi? tsaw layeiu txantsan

Tsmuktengan · November 10, 2011, 07:12:45 PM

Quote from: Ftiafpi on November 10, 2011, 11:37:16 AM
Wou!!!! Now we can do some really interesting stuff. Facebook translated into Na'vi! GO!

I doubt Facebook will accept this anytime soon. But if you are really keen to navify a social network, then Diaspora could be a great thing (and a platform where we could share more easily between us as well).

Diaspora is a libre, open source software that wants to be a reliable alternative, but respecting the users and their rights. There is a very clear page to help people understand how it can be translated and pushed into the project without pain. I guess the Na'vi vocabulary is currently sufficient for most strings, even if a few words may have to be constructed.

Just an idea, as this is actually totally possible, for those who are heading towards being fluent in Na'vi. Having a GUI in Na'vi would actually help learning words and practicing.

NB : If you want to get an account on this new platform, I do have one and can send you unlimited invitations to whoever asks me by email.

Ningey · November 11, 2011, 08:09:45 AM

Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on November 10, 2011, 03:19:13 PM
Quote from: Tsmuktengan on November 10, 2011, 08:43:07 AM
Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on November 10, 2011, 03:08:24 AM
Txantsan nìwotx nang

I saw another interesting site, similar to Mightyverse the other day, which could use some Na'vi words. However, they are organized around ISO codes, so this would be the 'foot in the door' for Na'vi!

I don't think I understood. Could you explain?

Here is one such site http://www.forvo.com/ This is a cool site, like Mightyverse on steroids (but Mightyverse has phrases instead of just words) If you look at their language list, you will see that each and every language there has an ISO code. So although it may be possible to get a Na'vi section started there, you probably are going to have a hard time until Na'vi has its ISO code. (BTW, for those of you who don't know, ISO means 'International Standards Organization'.)

In a lot of ways, an ISO code makes Na'vi an officially recognized language, a distinction (at least for conlangs) that is shared (as far as I know) only with Esperanto and Klingon.

Add Sindarin and Quenya (yes, those two have a code, too!), that would already make five once Na'vi gets its ISO code...

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä · November 12, 2011, 02:29:01 AM

Quote from: Ningey on November 11, 2011, 08:09:45 AM
Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on November 10, 2011, 03:19:13 PM

In a lot of ways, an ISO code makes Na'vi an officially recognized language, a distinction (at least for conlangs) that is shared (as far as I know) only with Esperanto and Klingon.

Add Sindarin and Quenya (yes, those two have a code, too!), that would already make five once Na'vi gets its ISO code...

Those were the other languages I thought might have an ISO code, but I failed to follow up on verifying that (I also suspected Lojban has a code, but I checked that and, apparently, it does not.) Do you happen to know when they were granted ISO codes?

But you are right. That is still a very small family considering how many languages (and conlangs) there are.

Ningey · November 12, 2011, 07:07:04 AM

Unfortunately not, but I can try to look that up and post it here should I happen upon any information concerning the whens.
But no matter what, the ISO code makes even an artificial language part of a much bigger family, and that's the point that puts any conlang with an ISO code ahead of those without one.

It would give Na'vi the benefit of finally being officially recognized as a language (otherwise awarding a code wouldn't make sense in the first place).

Taronyu · November 12, 2011, 07:08:41 AM

And I think that recognition would be pretty awesome.

~~This means that, quite officially, you can put Na'vi down as a language you're bilingual in, for one. And I mean that for pretty much any official document.~~

Ok, probably not true. Sigh.

Tsmuktengan · November 12, 2011, 08:24:28 AM

Quote from: Taronyu on November 12, 2011, 07:08:41 AM
This means that, quite officially, you can put Na'vi down as a language you're bilingual in, for one. And I mean that for pretty much any official document.

No because official documents may rely on local administration laws and constitutions, which state what official languages are recognized.

Many other constructed languages have their ISO code, but it did not change anything as is. So it's a great thing but even more efforts should be done for Na'vi to continue to make progress. Let's not stop the great work!

Taronyu · November 12, 2011, 10:08:53 AM

Aw. Well, it's still recognized by the ISO