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Quote from: Tsamsteu on January 09, 2010, 10:32:49 PM


no, ulte would not be used over sì. The use of ulte is to connect sentences, to form a compound sentence.
Sì is used as "and" is to connect words.


Aha! That's what I thought, but I used sì as and in some sentence or another and got yelled at for the opposite. That clears things up.


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Txontaw

Quote from: Tsamsteu on January 09, 2010, 10:41:27 PM
Quote from: Txontaw on January 09, 2010, 10:38:49 PM
Yeah, I don't know what I was doing with fly, but I think it was something like, fly is a verb, so you use the adj. converter to make it into an adjective, then you use the adjective marker to connect it to land.

OH! I got it now, you might want to use the <us> infix, which changes verbs to a participle:

Tsw<us>ayon atxkxe

Flying Land; however ke oe omum if you need -a adjective marker....

Yeah, I haven't gotten into infixes yet, because I can never tell where to put them. Irayo, though.
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Plumps

Quote from: Taronyu on January 09, 2010, 05:37:59 PM
Peu lu nga-ri hiyìk tì-plltxe?
What be your strange speech?

Wouldn't that be hiyìka tìplltxe? - strange speech - adjective connected to the noun...?

Ikranä mokri

wat grammar would i have to use to say bring me my bow or spear ?? i know which words to use its just the context to use them in?

is it zamunge tsko

and would I bring a bow and arrows be

oe tsko swizaw zamunge

my brother is brave is it this ??

oe tsteu tsmukan

as i said please correct my grammar and word order if wrong advice is always useful





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kewnya txamew'itan

you need to mark your cases.

Bring me my bow/spear would be:
bring I(DAT) I(GEN) bow/spear(ACC)

The DAT means that it is the Dative case and that it is being brought to you.

The GEN means that it is the Genitive case and can be roughly treated as a possessive, it means of me/my

The ACC means that it is the Accusative case and is the direct object (the thing the verb is directly affecting) e.g. I hunt ikran.

Putting on the cases we get:

zamunge oe-ru oe-yä tsko-t/tukru-t
which can be written zamunge oeru oeyä tskot/tukrut.
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Ikranä mokri

im guessing its the same  with every "bring me my" scenerio with verb-dative-genetive-accusative??





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Txontaw

Is this correct?

I speak Na'vi
Oe-l Na'vi-ti plltxe
I-[ERG] Na'vi-[ACC] speak
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Mì saw, kawtul tsun stivawm ngayä ayzawngit.

Tsamsteu

Quote from: Txontaw on January 10, 2010, 09:52:17 PM
Is this correct?

I speak Na'vi
Oe-l Na'vi-ti plltxe
I-[ERG] Na'vi-[ACC] speak

no, it's not fully correct, but you're close!

Oe-l Na'vi-t plltxe.
ERG   ACC

Since Na'vi ends in a vowel, you only have to add the -t accusatory suffix, not -it
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Quote from: Tsamsteu on January 10, 2010, 10:03:48 PM
Quote from: Txontaw on January 10, 2010, 09:52:17 PM
Is this correct?

I speak Na'vi
Oe-l Na'vi-ti plltxe
I-[ERG] Na'vi-[ACC] speak

no, it's not fully correct, but you're close!

Oe-l Na'vi-t plltxe.
ERG   ACC

Since Na'vi ends in a vowel, you only have to add the -t accusatory suffix, not -it

Actually, Na'viti is fine. (Maybe you thought he said Na'viit?). -ti and -t are for nouns that end in a vowel (think "ngati"). -it is for nouns ending in a consonant.
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Tsamsteu

oh my bad, i read it quickly and thought it was -it, -ti is acceptable though =]
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Neytiri, oeyä tsmuke, oel ngati kameie....

Txontaw

Sweet, I think I'm really getting a hang of this!
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Quote from: Twonyu Ikranä on January 10, 2010, 07:52:08 AM
im guessing its the same  with every "bring me my" scenerio with verb-dative-genetive-accusative??

Yes.

Quote from: Tsamsteu on January 10, 2010, 10:03:48 PM
Quote from: Txontaw on January 10, 2010, 09:52:17 PM
Is this correct?

I speak Na'vi
Oe-l Na'vi-ti plltxe
I-[ERG] Na'vi-[ACC] speak

no, it's not fully correct, but you're close!

Oe-l Na'vi-t plltxe.
ERG   ACC

Since Na'vi ends in a vowel, you only have to add the -t accusatory suffix, not -it

No, sorry, the above posters are treating Na'vi as the name for the language in which case either -t or -ti would be fine (we're not 100% about when to use -ti not -it or -t), it should be nìna'vi, I speak Na'vily or I speak like the people.
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Txontaw

Can anyone explain to me where infixes go? This is all I have to learn before I pretty much know the entire Na'vi grammar system.
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Tsamsteu

Quote from: Txontaw on January 12, 2010, 07:16:36 PM
Can anyone explain to me where infixes go? This is all I have to learn before I pretty much know the entire Na'vi grammar system.

Infixes and inflections are too expansive to be explained over a post, however i will refer you to this excellent source:

http://content.learnnavi.org/taronyu/Inflections.pdf
                                                              ^
this is an inflection guide created by toronyu__|

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. =]
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Txontaw

Thanks, I've already checked that out. All I need is a couple of examples of where to put them, because I really don't understand the whole "first syllable set" thing.
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Taronyu

Take a look at these:

lat.lat.lat.ft<1><2>at.l<3>a.

lalal<1><2>al<3>a

<1><2>aw<3>oo.

l<><><>u

<><><>ul

Does that help? It's hard to explain, but should be easy to show...maybe.


Txontaw

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Tìsyaw Nantangä

I'll try.. (made up words)

See http://content.learnnavi.org/taronyu/Inflections.pdf for which infix goes where (plus loads of other useful info). As a rule of thumb the mood infixes (<äng> and <ei>) go in position 3 and the other infixes go in <1> or <2> (which are the same so it doesn't really matter which you use unless you're using two non-mood infixes).

Fnga = 1 syllable.
Fng<1><2><3>a

Lala = 2 syllables.
L<1><2>al<3>a

Lafngala = 3 syllables.
Lafng<><>al<>a

Lulalulalumdedodada = lots of syllables
Lulalulalumdedod<><>ad<>a

Ug = 1 syllable.
<><><>ug

ugabu'a = 4 syllables.
ugab<><>u'<>a
Mì saw, kawtul tsun stivawm ngayä ayzawngit.

Txontaw

Thanks! That helped a lot. The only thing I'm confused about is the;

Fng<1><2><3>a

and

<><><>Ug

What's the difference? Is it cause there's a consonant in the front of one, and a vowel in the front of the other?
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