Word Football Game

[Sireayä mokri]

Awnga stäpolarsìm io tsaylì'u na ayikran aohakx a tse'a ponguti ayfwampopä.

Sìltsana pum

[Blue Elf]

Run ngeyä muntxatu ulte 'efu nitram, tìyawn fkewa tìtxur lu a tsun rivikx ayramur fu slivele txampayur. Slä nari si, po nìtengfya tsun livatem sìn txana tìve'kì tì'ì'avay krrä

['Oma Tirea]

Run ngeyä muntxatu ulte 'efu nitram, tìyawn fkewa tìtxur lu a tsun rivikx 'ivärìp ayramit fu slivele txampaymì. Slä Ngian nari si, po nìtengfya tsun livatem sìn txana tìve'kì tì'ì'avay krrä

Spoiler: Ìnglìsì

Find your mate and feel happy, love (and?) mighty strength are that which can move mountains and swim in the ocean.  But look, s/he also can change (on many hates?) until the end of time.

[Blue Elf]

Nearly correct. Ok, I'll try to rephrase, now with a help of dictionary:

Run ngeyä muntxatu ulte 'efu nitram, tìyawn lu fkewa tìseykxel a tsun 'ivärìp ayramit fu slivele few txampay. Ngian nari si, tsaw nìtengfya tsun livatem sìn txana tìve'kì tì'ì'avay krrä

[Tanri]

Lu lor sì ngay, ma Blue Elf.
Only two little things:
- "Run ngeyä muntxatut ...", as run is transitive.
- isn't better to use adposition ne instead of sìn, or omit the adposition at all?
   We know that verb slu, which is intransitive as well and similar in terms of usage, uses the ne adposition to express the target state. "Nìftue taronyu tsun slivu ne smar" - "the hunter can easily become a prey" (only quick example, not quoted).

[Tswusayona Tsamsiyu]

sìn is not correct here. it's meaning is "onto" in the physical sense (what other sense could be?). and of course don't use latem but just slu.

Lu lor sì ngay, ma Blue Elf.
Only two little things:
- "Run ngeyä muntxatut ...", as run is transitive.
- isn't better to use adposition ne instead of sìn, or omit the adposition at all?
   We know that verb slu, which is intransitive as well and similar in terms of usage, uses the ne adposition to express the target state. "Nìftue taronyu tsun slivu ne smar" - "the hunter can easily become a prey" (only quick example, not quoted).

ne is also in the physical sense (direction) so it can't be used here.
slu isn't used with ne.

next sentence:
yawne livu ngar ngeyä 'eylan nìftxan na nga.

[Sireayä mokri]

slu isn't used with ne.

It is, to avoid ambiguity. Therefore ne can have some "metaphorical" usage. But I don't see any possibility of ambiguity in that sentence, so it's unnecessary.

[Blue Elf]

slu isn't used with ne.

It is, to avoid ambiguity. Therefore ne can have some "metaphorical" usage. But I don't see any possibility of ambiguity in that sentence, so it's unnecessary.

Are there any canon examples of usage slu + ne together?

yawne livu ngar ngeyä 'eylan nìftxan na nga.

May your friend is belowed to you like you.

[Alyara Arati]

yawne livu ngar ngeyä 'eylan nìftxan na nga.

May your friend is belowed to you like you.

Would it be stretching too much to translate it as "love your neighbor as yourself"?

Oh, forgot to write a new sentence.  Um... ìì... "Aylì'u alor tsun tspivang tìyawnit ameyp, hufwa fra'ul tìng tìtxurit tìyawnur a li lu fpom."

[Tirea Aean]

slu isn't used with ne.

It is, to avoid ambiguity. Therefore ne can have some "metaphorical" usage. But I don't see any possibility of ambiguity in that sentence, so it's unnecessary.

I can attest to the correctness of this statemet as I was one of the people to ask Paul Frommer himself in person (Oct 2010) the question as to how to interpret "slu" sentences since slu is not transitive. He answered that ne is used only when totally ambiguous. most of the time, context makes it clear and it's not necessary.

yawne livu ngar ngeyä 'eylan nìftxan na nga.

May your friend is belowed to you like you.

Would it be stretching too much to translate it as "love your neighbor as yourself"?

That's what I was gonna translate it as, though loose. but I like the whole "translate the meaning, not the words" philosophy. who's got next sentence?

[Blue Elf]

Would it be stretching too much to translate it as "love your neighbor as yourself"?

Oh, forgot to write a new sentence.  Um... ìì... "Aylì'u alor tsun tspivang tìyawnit ameyp, hufwa fra'ul tìng tìtxurit tìyawnur a li lu fpom."

Well, better translation, I couldn't find the correct words. Maybe now:

Nice words can kill weak love, although everything makes love, which is already happy, stronger

And new sentence:

Tute a kawkem si tìkxey ke si ke'ur, slä ke nayume ke'u

[Puvomun]

Would it be stretching too much to translate it as "love your neighbor as yourself"?

Oh, forgot to write a new sentence.  Um... ìì... "Aylì'u alor tsun tspivang tìyawnit ameyp, hufwa fra'ul tìng tìtxurit tìyawnur a li lu fpom."

Well, better translation, I couldn't find the correct words. Maybe now:

Nice words can kill weak love, although everything makes love, which is already happy, stronger

And new sentence:

Tute a kawkem si tìkxey ke si ke'ur, slä ke nayume ke'u

A person who makes no mistake does nothing, but will not learn anything.

[Alyara Arati]

And new sentence:

Tuteri a kawkem ke si, tìkxey ke si ke'ur, slä ke nayume ke'uti

I think I'd use topical here, and double negative on the first part (but I'm not 100% certain as to why this seems good to me):  The person who does nothing makes no mistakes, but will learn nothing. 

[Blue Elf]

And new sentence:

Tuteri a kawkem ke si, tìkxey ke si ke'ur, slä ke nayume ke'uti

I think I'd use topical here, and double negative on the first part (but I'm not 100% certain as to why this seems good to me):  The person who does nothing makes no mistakes, but will learn nothing. 

oh yes, I forgot one of many needed negatives Translation is correct, of course, topical makes thing better.

[Puvomun]

one of many needed negatives

HAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

[Alyara Arati]

Tuteri a frakem si slä kawkrr hasey ke si ke'ur, nìteng ke nayume ke'ut.

[Blue Elf]

Tuteri a frakem si slä kawkrr hasey ke si ke'ur, nìteng ke nayume ke'ut.

Person which does everything but do not finish anything, won't learn anything too.

[Tanri]

Kop awnga zenke tswiva' futa
Fte nivume nìltsan fra'ut a tute new nivume, fu fte hasey sivi tìkangkemur a tute zene sivi, lu fkoru tìkin a frakem si tìyawnhu^* sì nìno, keng txo tsakem vä' lam.

['Oma Tirea]

Kop awnga zenke tswiva' futa
Fte nivume nìltsan fra'ut a tute new nivume, fu fte hasey sivi tìkangkemur a tute zene sivi, lu fkoru tìkin a frakem si tìyawnhu^* sì nìno, keng txo tsakem vä' lam.

In order to learn everything which one wants to learn well, or to finish work that one has to do, one needs to do it all with love, and precisely, even if it appears distasteful.

TEMO I prefer fko over tute here.

[Sireayä mokri]

hufwa fra'ul tìng tìtxurit tìyawnur a li lu fpom tsar."

I think tìtxur should be tìseykxel here, because we're not talking about physical strength.

Fte nivume nìltsan fra'ut a tute new nivume, fu fte hasey sivi tìkangkemur a tute zene sivi, lu fkoru tìkin a frakem si tìyawnhu^* sì nìno, keng txo tsakem vä' lam.

Instead of tìyawnhu you can use nìyawne.

TEMO I prefer fko over tute here.

Yeah, I agree.