Supply distribution brainstorm (for perm tribe)

['Itan Atxur]

That's another very good point.

[Omatikaya'itan]

Yes it is a good point but one easily answered . The Bell jet ranger is your typical helicopter they are the most widely used police use them News angencys use them but they do need a lot of upkeep thats why the UH-1 Huey is our best choice it needs very very little upkeep thats why it was a huge success in vietnam.

['Itan Atxur]

Wait... I thought heli's in Vietnam were pretty much a death sentence (shows how much I know about it though )

But back on topic, if this heli requires less maintenance, than it's probably the better bet for sure.

[Omatikaya'itan]

yes the Huey can also carry alot of cargo and it can cary about 6 or 7 people

['Itan Atxur]

Yeah, I'm really not as opposed to the idea of a heli in the tribe as I thought I'd be, island or main land. I still think that if possible, a normal vehicle wouldn't be a bad idea depending on how close the nearest hospital is. I mean, obviously, a heli will reach the hospital MUCH faster.

[bagget00]

And it would be fun.
but seriously, nothing could be more helpful in a situatuion where we are far away from a hospital and someone gets something broken or maimed. The flight would be nicer on the person too. No bumps in the road to avoid.

['Itan Atxur]

Lol. Didn't even think of that. That's a pretty good point.

[Txon Taronyu]

but if we only have like 20 people (which is the way this looks like it is going) we wount be able to mantain the heli it would be cheaper just to be able to take care of most problems and then just get the hosbital to fly somebody out when needed

[guest2859]

Yeah, again my hate of air vehicles, but yeah. If we're on an island, we'd definatly have to know the nearest city with a hospital.

[Omatikaya'itan]

hmmm even though i dont believe that if or when we get this thing started that we will need to bring 20 people out of the tribe but if we do i think in some countrys you can buy a CH-47 Chinook those can carry over or around 64,000 pounds of cargo. but if the idea of a big ugly heli is stupid they are not bad looking i mean look up blackhawk helicopter that thing looks like a sports car but any way we could always paint the heli in jungle style camo

[guest2859]

Or Na'vi camo. [just to say]

[Letxuma Swizaw]

hmmm even though i dont believe that if or when we get this thing started that we will need to bring 20 people out of the tribe but if we do i think in some countrys you can buy a CH-47 Chinook those can carry over or around 64,000 pounds of cargo. but if the idea of a big ugly heli is stupid they are not bad looking i mean look up blackhawk helicopter that thing looks like a sports car but any way we could always paint the heli in jungle style camo

A heli that looks like a sports car is still made of metal i thinks that's the whole ugly point. I'm opposed to any factory-made things being near the tribe but if it comes down to safety i'll just have to grin and bear it. Or go start my own tribe that frees themselves from all man-made conventions(that soon die in the process  ).

Can someone give me a list of injuries that they feel would necessitate the use of a heli?

[Technowraith]

This just came to me i know that we are going to try to create a self sustaining tribe. ok but for the first few months even first few years we need supplies from out of the tribe because it will take time for plants and crops to grow and for our animals to mate, oh even more important what of the things we cant get by our selves like medicine and stuff like that, I will tell you now my new bell jet ranger helicopter cant hold a lot. so now i will leave this thread open for brainstorm go nuts.

As a close lurker in the perm tribe forum (because i am seriously contemplating joining) the whole supply thing will have a couple issues to overcome:

Farming: I wouldn't rule out farming 100%. A simple vegetable garden can feed a lot for a season. I;m sure that if there are several gardens, you'll not be wanting for fresh, ripe vegetables.
Non-accessibles: There will be things you can't get, such as medicines or electronics. I'm not sure if the tribe is completely separating from society. But if the tribe intends to maintain basic contact with the world, you need things like batteries and some basic electronics. These need to be brought in from the outside.
Ramping up/Back-up supplies: Obviously you need to have a back-up while you guys get established. Planting crops and hunting will take time. You will need to get things at the outset. On a similar note, you should always have a back-up supply plan. Bad weather, unsuccessful hunts or whatever could conceivably cut off your food supply. Be sure to have some sort of cache or back-up for obtaining supplies, whatever it may be.
Transportation: Not sure if you guys are planning to not use cars, but i'm sure at the least, you could park the cars at a lot at the fringe of the tribe's land and then hike in from there. Of course, you'll need to be physically prepared for such activity. But i think we all got that covered as prospective members of the tribe.

My thoughts and opinions. Add or subtract as you see fit. 

[guest2859]

Can someone give me a list of injuries that they feel would necessitate the use of a heli?

Broken Spine
Rock Collapse, pinned down
Something pierces you, any bumpy movement causes intense pain.

That's all I'd deal with helicopter-like.

[Letxuma Swizaw]

Broken Spine
Rock Collapse, pinned down
Something pierces you, any bumpy movement causes intense pain.

That's all I'd deal with helicopter-like.

not trying to make myself sound like an idiot. i just like playing the devil's advocate. it's good for finding the proper middle ground.

so with these injuries we need causes. someone list these.

[Txontaw]

This just came to me i know that we are going to try to create a self sustaining tribe. ok but for the first few months even first few years we need supplies from out of the tribe because it will take time for plants and crops to grow and for our animals to mate, oh even more important what of the things we cant get by our selves like medicine and stuff like that, I will tell you now my new bell jet ranger helicopter cant hold a lot. so now i will leave this thread open for brainstorm go nuts.

As a close lurker in the perm tribe forum (because i am seriously contemplating joining) the whole supply thing will have a couple issues to overcome:

Farming: I wouldn't rule out farming 100%. A simple vegetable garden can feed a lot for a season. I;m sure that if there are several gardens, you'll not be wanting for fresh, ripe vegetables.
Non-accessibles: There will be things you can't get, such as medicines or electronics. I'm not sure if the tribe is completely separating from society. But if the tribe intends to maintain basic contact with the world, you need things like batteries and some basic electronics. These need to be brought in from the outside.
Ramping up/Back-up supplies: Obviously you need to have a back-up while you guys get established. Planting crops and hunting will take time. You will need to get things at the outset. On a similar note, you should always have a back-up supply plan. Bad weather, unsuccessful hunts or whatever could conceivably cut off your food supply. Be sure to have some sort of cache or back-up for obtaining supplies, whatever it may be.
Transportation: Not sure if you guys are planning to not use cars, but i'm sure at the least, you could park the cars at a lot at the fringe of the tribe's land and then hike in from there. Of course, you'll need to be physically prepared for such activity. But i think we all got that covered as prospective members of the tribe.

My thoughts and opinions. Add or subtract as you see fit. 

Farming: Yeah, I don't think we were planning on ruling out farming completely, as it would be helpful to have a garden. We were talking more of the fields of food farming.

Non-Accessible: Why would we need batteries? Everything electrical (basically a single computer(so that someone can work to keep our tribe running, and to build up an emergency reserve of cash)) powered is going to be powered by a combination of wind, water, and human power. All I can see that we would need from the outside world is medicine, and maybe some seeds for the garden mentioned previously. And the actual tech for the natural power of the electronics.

Back-up supplies: Yeah, we've already thought about that one, and we're going to prolly take about a month supply of food along, to help us set up. This is by no means going to be instant.

Transportation: Yeah, it would be something like that. We might also have a helicopter, for if there's a desperate emergency.

[Letxuma Swizaw]

depending on location some medicines can be received from our mother.

['Itan Atxur]

That's the kind of stuff I'll be learning in this class I'll be taking 

[Letxuma Swizaw]

things i know off the top of my head include:
penicillin- a fungus-anti bacterial
aloe vera- a cacti?- pain reliever antiseptic
dragons blood- a sap from certain trees -antiseptic antibacterial
menthol- burn soother headache relief
cerain nut oils- moisturizer for burns and chafing
Herbal remedies for upset stomache
Marijuana-not realistic i know but still a good diuretic

[Txontaw]

Marijuana-not realistic i know but still a good diuretic

In very, very small quantities.