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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #80 on: August 26, 2011, 05:36:12 am »
Nga swawo pivey,
tìyel tì’eyngit oey.
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #81 on: August 26, 2011, 05:39:28 am »
Tìyawn oer lu stxong.
Kxawm ke tslam fa fya'o aeyawr, slä.... oel fpìl futa fìlì'ukìng ke lu eyawr.

I understand it as: Love I have Strange/Unknown => I have strange love
But it doesn't look grammatically correct, I'd say: Oer lu tìyawn astxong -or- Oeri tìyawn lu stxong (for me, love is strange). However both changes number of syllables by 1, what breaks haiku... :(

Try "love is strange/unknown to me."
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #82 on: August 26, 2011, 05:56:36 am »
Tìyawn oer lu stxong.
Kxawm ke tslam fa fya'o aeyawr, slä.... oel fpìl futa fìlì'ukìng ke lu eyawr.

I understand it as: Love I have Strange/Unknown => I have strange love
But it doesn't look grammatically correct, I'd say: Oer lu tìyawn astxong -or- Oeri tìyawn lu stxong (for me, love is strange). However both changes number of syllables by 1, what breaks haiku... :(

Try "love is strange/unknown to me."
Gives reason  :) However I'd changed word order to be better understandable.
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #83 on: August 26, 2011, 06:19:28 am »
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #84 on: August 26, 2011, 06:29:18 am »


* 'Oma Tirear sunu fìu

...Ngian tsole'a oel fìmekeyeyt:

"slä 'uo zene latem" → "...zene livatem" since zene is modal.  Also, keftxo isn't a noun.  It can't take an -it ;)

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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #85 on: August 26, 2011, 06:43:41 am »


* 'Oma Tirear sunu fìu

...Ngian tsole'a oel fìmekeyeyt:

"slä 'uo zene latem" → "...zene livatem" since zene is modal.  Also, keftxo isn't a noun.  It can't take an -it ;)

Thanks, I should have caught those, but I was very down and tired.  I'll try to fiddle around and obtain both grammatical and syllabic correctness.
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #86 on: August 26, 2011, 06:45:08 am »
* 'Oma Tirear sunu fìu

...Ngian tsole'a oel fìmekeyeyt:

"slä 'uo zene latem" → "...zene livatem" since zene is modal.  Also, keftxo isn't a noun.  It can't take an -it ;)
also - oe/oel/oer takes 2 syllables, not only one (although in speech can take only one, if you pronounce them as we/wel/wer)
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #87 on: August 26, 2011, 08:12:08 am »
* 'Oma Tirear sunu fìu

...Ngian tsole'a oel fìmekeyeyt:

"slä 'uo zene latem" → "...zene livatem" since zene is modal.  Also, keftxo isn't a noun.  It can't take an -it ;)
also - oe/oel/oer takes 2 syllables, not only one (although in speech can take only one, if you pronounce them as we/wel/wer)
Slä aylì'u alor, nìfrakrr

I'll say that oe is two and oel/oet/oer/oey are one each. unless you were speaking very slowly. the requiring of iv already messup syllable count.

more important than all that is how bad the writer feels. NOT GOOD... :(:( keftxo rä'ä 'ivefu...
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #88 on: August 26, 2011, 08:20:32 am »
frahaykut alor
a fìtsengit tok tse'a
oeru teya si ;)
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #89 on: August 26, 2011, 09:00:47 am »
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more important than all that is how bad the writer feels. NOT GOOD...  :( :( rä'ä keftxo 'ivefu...
Krrìl zeykayo fra'ut (kxawm....)

I think negation particle must be before verb, kefyak?
keftxo rä'ä 'ivefu

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a fìtsengit tok tse'a
very interesting non-modal construction with two verb  :) Safer would be: a tsun tsive'a fìtseng

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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #90 on: August 26, 2011, 10:05:26 am »
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a fìtsengit tok tse'a
very interesting non-modal construction with two verb  :) Safer would be: a tsun tsive'a fìtseng
no need for that. look at the sentence: frahaykut alor, a fìtsengit tok, tse'a...... it's reversed tse'a frahaykut alor a fìtsengit tok.
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2011, 10:49:36 am »
Aylì'ut ke kin,
ayhayku lì'fya slolu,
fì'u wou oer.
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #92 on: August 26, 2011, 10:52:16 am »
Seysonìltsan ma meylan! :)
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2011, 10:56:04 am »
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more important than all that is how bad the writer feels. NOT GOOD...  :( :( rä'ä keftxo 'ivefu...
Krrìl zeykayo fra'ut (kxawm....)

I think negation particle must be before verb, kefyak?
keftxo rä'ä 'ivefu


only sometimes...


fixed. irayo. #k2c

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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #94 on: August 26, 2011, 11:43:22 am »
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a fìtsengit tok tse'a
very interesting non-modal construction with two verb  :) Safer would be: a tsun tsive'a fìtseng
no need for that. look at the sentence: frahaykut alor, a fìtsengit tok, tse'a...... it's reversed tse'a frahaykut alor a fìtsengit tok.
Well, I was confused by missing comma. I didn't see any connection between tse'a and other parts.
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #95 on: August 26, 2011, 01:14:11 pm »
Fpi sirea kin oel zongtsengit
a tsal ngaya’ tsengit letam,
fte mivunge fra’ut sì frapot
a yawne lu oer...

(ngaytxoa, kea hayku)
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #96 on: August 26, 2011, 01:39:03 pm »
Fpi sirea kin oel zongtsengit
a tsal ngaya’ tsengit letam,
fte mivunge fra’ut sì frapot
a yawne lu oer...

(ngaytxoa, kea hayku)
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #97 on: August 26, 2011, 10:46:48 pm »
I'll say that oe is two and oel/oet/oer/oey are one each. unless you were speaking very slowly.

I'd say it's up to the writer on whether or not oe/oel/oet/oer is 1 or 2 syllables.  Generally, I count each as one (sometimes I may do oe as 2).

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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #98 on: August 26, 2011, 10:50:57 pm »
I'll say that oe is two and oel/oet/oer/oey are one each. unless you were speaking very slowly.

I'd say it's up to the writer on whether or not oe/oel/oet/oer is 1 or 2 syllables.  Generally, I count each as one (sometimes I may do oe as 2).




I'll say that (it is my habit to and personal preference that ) oe is (generally) two and oel/oet/oer/oey are one each. unless you were speaking very slowly. the requiring of iv already messup syllable count.

more important than all that is how bad the writer feels. NOT GOOD... :(:( keftxo rä'ä 'ivefu...

fixed.
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Re: Ayhayku
« Reply #99 on: August 27, 2011, 03:21:51 am »
doesn't oe become "we" only when it has a suffix?
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