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Tanri

Nga swawo pivey,
tìyel tì'eyngit oey.
'ìyeyng nìprrte' :)
Tätxawyu akì'ong.

Alyara Arati

Quote from: Blue Elf on August 26, 2011, 05:30:22 AM
Quote from: Alyara Arati on August 26, 2011, 05:12:45 AM
Tìyawn oer lu stxong.
Kxawm ke tslam fa fya'o aeyawr, slä.... oel fpìl futa fìlì'ukìng ke lu eyawr.

I understand it as: Love I have Strange/Unknown => I have strange love
But it doesn't look grammatically correct, I'd say: Oer lu tìyawn astxong -or- Oeri tìyawn lu stxong (for me, love is strange). However both changes number of syllables by 1, what breaks haiku... :(

Try "love is strange/unknown to me."
Learn how to see.  Realize that everything connects to everything else.
~ Leonardo da Vinci

Blue Elf

Quote from: Alyara Arati on August 26, 2011, 05:39:28 AM
Quote from: Blue Elf on August 26, 2011, 05:30:22 AM
Quote from: Alyara Arati on August 26, 2011, 05:12:45 AM
Tìyawn oer lu stxong.
Kxawm ke tslam fa fya'o aeyawr, slä.... oel fpìl futa fìlì'ukìng ke lu eyawr.

I understand it as: Love I have Strange/Unknown => I have strange love
But it doesn't look grammatically correct, I'd say: Oer lu tìyawn astxong -or- Oeri tìyawn lu stxong (for me, love is strange). However both changes number of syllables by 1, what breaks haiku... :(

Try "love is strange/unknown to me."
Gives reason  :) However I'd changed word order to be better understandable.
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Alyara Arati

#83
Learn how to see.  Realize that everything connects to everything else.
~ Leonardo da Vinci

'Oma Tirea

Quote from: Alyara Arati on August 26, 2011, 06:19:28 AM


* 'Oma Tirear sunu fìu

...Ngian tsole'a oel fìmekeyeyt:

"slä 'uo zene latem" → "...zene livatem" since zene is modal.  Also, keftxo isn't a noun.  It can't take an -it ;)

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Alyara Arati

Quote from: 'Oma Tirea on August 26, 2011, 06:29:18 AM
Quote from: Alyara Arati on August 26, 2011, 06:19:28 AM


* 'Oma Tirear sunu fìu

...Ngian tsole'a oel fìmekeyeyt:

"slä 'uo zene latem" → "...zene livatem" since zene is modal.  Also, keftxo isn't a noun.  It can't take an -it ;)

Thanks, I should have caught those, but I was very down and tired.  I'll try to fiddle around and obtain both grammatical and syllabic correctness.
Learn how to see.  Realize that everything connects to everything else.
~ Leonardo da Vinci

Blue Elf

Quote from: 'Oma Tirea on August 26, 2011, 06:29:18 AM
Quote from: Alyara Arati on August 26, 2011, 06:19:28 AM
* 'Oma Tirear sunu fìu

...Ngian tsole'a oel fìmekeyeyt:

"slä 'uo zene latem" → "...zene livatem" since zene is modal.  Also, keftxo isn't a noun.  It can't take an -it ;)
also - oe/oel/oer takes 2 syllables, not only one (although in speech can take only one, if you pronounce them as we/wel/wer)
Slä aylì'u alor, nìfrakrr
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Tirea Aean

#87
Quote from: Blue Elf on August 26, 2011, 06:45:08 AM
Quote from: 'Oma Tirea on August 26, 2011, 06:29:18 AM
Quote from: Alyara Arati on August 26, 2011, 06:19:28 AM
* 'Oma Tirear sunu fìu

...Ngian tsole'a oel fìmekeyeyt:

"slä 'uo zene latem" → "...zene livatem" since zene is modal.  Also, keftxo isn't a noun.  It can't take an -it ;)
also - oe/oel/oer takes 2 syllables, not only one (although in speech can take only one, if you pronounce them as we/wel/wer)
Slä aylì'u alor, nìfrakrr

I'll say that oe is two and oel/oet/oer/oey are one each. unless you were speaking very slowly. the requiring of iv already messup syllable count.

more important than all that is how bad the writer feels. NOT GOOD... :(:( keftxo rä'ä 'ivefu...

Tswusayona Tsamsiyu

frahaykut alor
a fìtsengit tok tse'a
oeru teya si ;)
Nivume Na'vit, fpivìl nìNa'vi, kivame na Na'vi.....
oer fko syaw tswusayona tsamsiyu

Blue Elf

Quotemore important than all that is how bad the writer feels. NOT GOOD...  :( :( rä'ä keftxo 'ivefu...
Krrìl zeykayo fra'ut (kxawm....)

I think negation particle must be before verb, kefyak?
keftxo rä'ä 'ivefu

Quotea fìtsengit tok tse'a
very interesting non-modal construction with two verb  :) Safer would be: a tsun tsive'a fìtseng

Slä zola'u nìprrte' ro seng aylì'uä alor, ma Tsamsiyu ;D
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Tswusayona Tsamsiyu

Quote from: Blue Elf on August 26, 2011, 09:00:47 AM
Quotea fìtsengit tok tse'a
very interesting non-modal construction with two verb  :) Safer would be: a tsun tsive'a fìtseng
no need for that. look at the sentence: frahaykut alor, a fìtsengit tok, tse'a...... it's reversed tse'a frahaykut alor a fìtsengit tok.
Nivume Na'vit, fpivìl nìNa'vi, kivame na Na'vi.....
oer fko syaw tswusayona tsamsiyu

Sireayä mokri

Aylì'ut ke kin,
ayhayku lì'fya slolu,
fì'u wou oer.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Kamean

Seysonìltsan ma meylan! :)
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


Tirea Aean

Quote from: Blue Elf on August 26, 2011, 09:00:47 AM
Quotemore important than all that is how bad the writer feels. NOT GOOD...  :( :( rä'ä keftxo 'ivefu...
Krrìl zeykayo fra'ut (kxawm....)

I think negation particle must be before verb, kefyak?
keftxo rä'ä 'ivefu


only sometimes...


fixed. irayo. #k2c

Blue Elf

Quote from: Tswusayona Tsamsiyu on August 26, 2011, 10:05:26 AM
Quote from: Blue Elf on August 26, 2011, 09:00:47 AM
Quotea fìtsengit tok tse'a
very interesting non-modal construction with two verb  :) Safer would be: a tsun tsive'a fìtseng
no need for that. look at the sentence: frahaykut alor, a fìtsengit tok, tse'a...... it's reversed tse'a frahaykut alor a fìtsengit tok.
Well, I was confused by missing comma. I didn't see any connection between tse'a and other parts.
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Tanri

Quote from: Alyara Arati on August 26, 2011, 06:19:28 AM
Fpi sirea kin oel zongtsengit
a tsal ngaya' tsengit letam,
fte mivunge fra'ut sì frapot
a yawne lu oer...

(ngaytxoa, kea hayku)
Tätxawyu akì'ong.

Kamean

Quote from: Tanri on August 26, 2011, 01:14:11 PM
Quote from: Alyara Arati on August 26, 2011, 06:19:28 AM
Fpi sirea kin oel zongtsengit
a tsal ngaya' tsengit letam,
fte mivunge fra'ut sì frapot
a yawne lu oer...

(ngaytxoa, kea hayku)
Ulte sunu oer nìteng. :D
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


'Oma Tirea

Quote from: Tirea Aean on August 26, 2011, 08:12:08 AM
I'll say that oe is two and oel/oet/oer/oey are one each. unless you were speaking very slowly.

I'd say it's up to the writer on whether or not oe/oel/oet/oer is 1 or 2 syllables.  Generally, I count each as one (sometimes I may do oe as 2).

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Tirea Aean

#98
Quote from: 'Oma Tirea on August 26, 2011, 10:46:48 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on August 26, 2011, 08:12:08 AM
I'll say that oe is two and oel/oet/oer/oey are one each. unless you were speaking very slowly.

I'd say it's up to the writer on whether or not oe/oel/oet/oer is 1 or 2 syllables.  Generally, I count each as one (sometimes I may do oe as 2).



Quote from: Tirea Aean on August 26, 2011, 08:12:08 AM

I'll say that (it is my habit to and personal preference that ) oe is (generally) two and oel/oet/oer/oey are one each. unless you were speaking very slowly. the requiring of iv already messup syllable count.

more important than all that is how bad the writer feels. NOT GOOD... :(:( keftxo rä'ä 'ivefu...

fixed.

Tswusayona Tsamsiyu

doesn't oe become "we" only when it has a suffix?
Nivume Na'vit, fpivìl nìNa'vi, kivame na Na'vi.....
oer fko syaw tswusayona tsamsiyu