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Conscience
« on: June 15, 2011, 04:14:14 pm »
Lu txon li, hola aysway kxamtxonsre. Nga new hivahaw, slä tsaw ke tsunslu. Ngal 'efu tskxeti mì te'lan ngeyä.
Nga pawm san pelun ke tsun oe hivahaw ?
Mokrio 'eyng:
- Kxawm nga kemo sami a lu kawng...
- Ohh! Tok fìtsenget tuteol, srak?
- Srane, oel tok fìtsenget, lok nìtxan.
- Pesu lu nga?
- Oe lu tsapo a omum pxaya ayut.
- Nga latsu ... Eywa, srak?
- Kehe, oe lu hì'i to Eywa. Slä oel tse'a frau't a nga tìng nari. Oel stawm frapamit a nga tìng mikyun. Ulte oel nìteng tse'a frakemit a nga kem si.
- Pesengit ngal tok? Oel ngati ke tse'a.
- Ke tsun tsive'a oeti. Ngaru lu oe mì ngeyä re'o sì txe'lan. Oel tok tsenget mìfa nga.
- Peut ngal new oeta?
- Ke'ut. Smon oeru taweyka nga ke tsun hivahaw.
- Peut nga tsun ivomum?
- Fmi fpivìl. Kempe sami nga fìtrr?
- ìì... Oel tamok na'rìngit Txewìhu ulte moe tolaron. Poan lolu taronyu asìltsan to oe.
- Tse, fìlunìri nga stoli ulte skola'a peyä tskot. Tsakem ke si kip meylan...
- ìì... srane. Tsari oe 'efu kawng.
- Pehem sayi?
- Oe kayä fte tsap'alute sivi.
- Tìyawr. Slä tsaw ke lu letam. Fyape po tayaron luke tsko?
- Tse, oe zene ngivop mipa tskot poru. Fu tayìng oeyä tskot poru.
- Säfpìl asìltsan a sunu oeru, tsaw muiä lu. Tse, nga tìkxey sami, slä tsun zeykivo tsat. Set hahaw, txon lu yol. Rewon to txon lu txantslusam.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2011, 02:21:07 pm by Blue Elf »
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Re: Conscience
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2011, 05:15:46 pm »
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- Peut ngal tsun ivomum?

Tìstusä'nìri keyeyä ke fnan oe, ngian oeru lam fì'u sìltsan nìtxan! :)
Learn how to see.  Realize that everything connects to everything else.
~ Leonardo da Vinci

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Re: Conscience
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2011, 05:23:04 pm »
Sunu oer. :)
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


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Re: Conscience
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 12:49:09 am »
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- Peut ngal tsun ivomum?

Tìstusä'nìri keyeyä ke fnan oe, ngian oeru lam fì'u sìltsan nìtxan! :)
Wiya! Snumìna kxexey nìtxan! Zoslolu.
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Re: Conscience
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2011, 01:52:13 am »
WOU! Txantsan, ma Blue Elf!
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

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Re: Conscience
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 06:20:29 am »
Mllte, lu txantsana tìpängkxo a oeyä eltur tìtxen seiyi :)

However couple of patientives are missing:

  Oel tok tsenget mìfa nga.
  ulte skola'a peyä tskot.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

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Re: Conscience
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 08:57:56 am »
Snumìna keyey nìmun, wiya pxeylo!
But only three together - hmm, best result ever  :) Slä oe zene nivume nì'ul :)
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Re: Conscience
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 12:20:45 pm »
Yeah, agentive\patientive can be tough to catch sometimes :) Still great job!
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

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Re: Conscience
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 02:30:56 pm »
txantsan nìngay. vivar pamrel sivi. ;)

about mistakes:
where you said Slä oel tse'a frau't a nga nari si. it should be tìng nari.
Peut ngal new oeta? - here it should be oeri and not oeta. although you can say peut a oeta ngal new? but Topical is easier.
right after that sentence there's ke'u which needs patientive.
that's all I can find. you are making this hard for us. ;) ;)
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Re: Conscience
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2011, 01:04:30 am »
txantsan nìngay. vivar pamrel sivi. ;)

about mistakes:
where you said Slä oel tse'a frau't a nga nari si. it should be tìng nari.
Pxasìk, you are right! How I could mismatch it? Idioms are sometimes nonsensial...
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Peut ngal new oeta? - here it should be oeri and not oeta. although you can say peut a oeta ngal new? but Topical is easier.
Agree that topical can be used here, but IMHO it makes the meaning a little unclear. Topical is a mysterious construction
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right after that sentence there's ke'u which needs patientive.
patientative without any verb? It works in my native language, I think, but in Na'vi?
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that's all I can find. you are making this hard for us. ;) ;)
That was my intention ;D
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Re: Conscience
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 09:21:57 am »
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right after that sentence there's ke'u which needs patientive.
patientative without any verb? It works in my native language, I think, but in Na'vi?
there's an implied new there. he wants nothing. it refers to the verb in the question in the sentence above.
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Re: Conscience
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 12:42:40 pm »
patientative without any verb? It works in my native language, I think, but in Na'vi?
there's an implied new there. he wants nothing. it refers to the verb in the question in the sentence above.

This can also be "Ke'u [lu fwa new oel]."
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Re: Conscience
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 12:47:02 pm »
but who is so poetic to answer this way?
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Re: Conscience
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2011, 05:38:26 am »
Probably no one, but I think it would only add some more mystery this way :)
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Re: Conscience
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2011, 07:00:49 am »
so I think we can agree that in this case both answers are correct, but the one with patientive is more likely to happen.
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Re: Conscience
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2011, 12:10:32 pm »
Absolutely. Patientive is really more expected here, since the general tone of the conversation is rather casual (I notice hola+plural there).
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