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Fìwopx atun
« on: September 12, 2011, 03:50:21 am »
Fìrewon oel tsame'a fìwpox atun.
Tsa'u mamunge oeyä ya atìrey,
Lamu lor nìftxan.

Fkol ke tsame'a tsawket,
slä peyä ayatanvil namekx tawit
sì fìwopx mì pum.

Oe 'efu netrìp
talun oel tsame'a futa,
ulte oeru lu menari fwa tse'a sì kame.

Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 07:02:37 am »
Ma Puvomun, prrte' lu oeru fwa nga pamrel si nìmun mì fìtsenge. Zola'u nìprrte' ne'ìm!
Very good poem. Love these short simple works.

Some corrections:
Fìrewon oel tsame'a fìwopxit atun (don't forget patientive for transitives)
Tsa'ul mamunge oeru yat arusey. munge is transitive. I'm not sure what you want to say, i rewrote it as "That brought me living air"
Lamu lor nìftxan. nìftxan is for comparing (saying that something is same as ....)

talun oel tsame'a fìu't (because I saw "this thing")
ulte oeru lu menari fwa tse'a sì kame. It is attributative clause, no need for fwa
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 07:16:13 am »
Tsa'ul mamunge oeru yat arusey. munge is transitive. I'm not sure what you want to say, i rewrote it as "That brought me living air"
Irayo, ma Blue Elf.
I tried to find a description for "breath"  *grin*, and the "air of life" was closest I could get. ("It took my breath away.")
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2011, 07:51:37 am »
Seysonìltsan ma Puvomun :)

Oe 'efu netrìp

I think netrìp is not for people, so what you need here is nitram.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2011, 10:45:20 am »
Ma Puvomum - seysonìltsan! Ngeyä poem suneiu oer. :)
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2011, 11:38:16 am »
Irayo ma frapo, I need to crank up my skills again. Too much going on over the last months and then 2 weeks of Na'vi-less vacation...
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2011, 01:43:22 pm »
I tried to find a description for "breath"  *grin*, and the "air of life" was closest I could get. ("It took my breath away.")
Well, we need word for "breath" and/or "breathe", I'd like to use it too. What LEP does regarding this matter? :) Ma Plumps? Ma Sireayä mokri?

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I think netrìp is not for people
And for whom it is? I think difference is in word type - nitram is adjective, netrìp is adverb.
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2011, 01:51:03 pm »
Well, we need word for "breath" and/or "breathe", I'd like to use it too. What LEP does regarding this matter? :) Ma Plumps? Ma Sireayä mokri?

There is a suggestion out to Dr. Frommer since February... it has not had a response yet.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2011, 01:57:03 pm »
Well, we need word for "breath" and/or "breathe", I'd like to use it too. What LEP does regarding this matter? :) Ma Plumps? Ma Sireayä mokri?

There is a suggestion out to Dr. Frommer since February... it has not had a response yet.
A little offtopic (sorry) - is somewhere available list of submitted suggestions? I'd like to see it, but don't know where to search for it.
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2011, 02:27:22 pm »
Well, we need word for "breath" and/or "breathe", I'd like to use it too. What LEP does regarding this matter? :) Ma Plumps? Ma Sireayä mokri?

There is a suggestion out to Dr. Frommer since February... it has not had a response yet.
A little offtopic (sorry) - is somewhere available list of submitted suggestions? I'd like to see it, but don't know where to search for it.

Yup, you can find it here: http://forum.learnnavi.org/general-lep-discussion/index-of-proposals-and-priority-words/

It does require some time to load, so don't worry if it takes a while!
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2011, 03:14:33 am »
sì fìwopx mì fum.

They say no one expects the lenition....

[img]http://swokaikran.skxawng.lu/sigbar/nwotd.php?p=2b[/img]

ÌTXTSTXRR!!

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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2011, 03:25:20 am »
sì fìwopx mì fum.

They say no one expects the lenition....


No one but you.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2011, 03:43:04 am »
fay+ payfya (those streams/brooks)
Tìslusa'tsuri irayo.  Lenition... :P

Sometimes even I don't expect the lenition :P

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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2011, 08:12:51 am »
And for whom it is? I think difference is in word type - nitram is adjective, netrìp is adverb.

Exactly, but I meant etrìp, my bad...
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

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Re: Fìwopx atun
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2011, 07:05:15 pm »
I don't think I can add anything but my own "seysonìltsan ma Puvomun."  Thank you so much for sharing. :D
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