Kxamä Atxkxe

[Ftxavanga Txe′lan]

Kaltxì ma oeyä eylan! Pamrel sami mune ay*poem* nìNa'vi: 'awvea *poem* lu mawl amuve tìrolä ta Txolkìn a Bilbo way si mì Imladris, ulte pamrel sami oe *poem*ur amuve nì'Ìnglìsì zìsìtam. Lu teri Orrks sì lahea ayswirä akawng txampxì. Fwa kem sami oe pxaya keyeyur lu law, slä sìlpey oe tsnì prrte' layu ayngaru. Skxakep pamrel sayi alahe ayur teri Kxamä Atxkxe, ulte wayìntxu ayut fìtsenge!


Bilboyä tìrol mì Imladris

Talun(a) mi lu fìtxan pxaya ayut
a kawkrr tsole'a oel:
mì frana'rìng sì frakilvan
lu eampin aketeng.

Heyn oe txeprofa ulte fpìl
teri sute ta ftawnemkrr alìm,
sì sute a tsaye'a kifkey
a kawkrr ke ayomum oel.

Slä krr nìwotx heyn oe ulte fpìl
teri hrr a lamu srekrr,
tìng mikyun tusätxawa ayvenuru
sì aymokri tìfpxäkìmro.

nì'Ìnglìsì

Spoiler

For still there are so many things
that I have never seen:
in every wood and every spring
there is adifferent green.

I sit beside the fire and think
of people long ago,
and people who will see a world
that I shall never know.

But all the while I sit and think
of times there were before,
I listen for returning feet
and voices at the door.

Kea tìkawng

Nì'aw tìkanhu skiva'änga lora ayfì'ut nìwotx,
Ayfo tamìran mì atanä kifkey.
Zeyka'u txonur akawng
Nemfa sìltsana suteyä txe'lan sì vitra.

Fìtxan ayfo luke txe'lan sì luke tìtslam lamu,
Fìtxan law fwa flivä!
Vamirä ukit txopuyä luke tì'i'a
Fparmìl ayfoä Layona Krr zamarmunge.

Slä lamu atanvi a ayfo ke tsamun skiva'a,
Tìtxur a ke tsun tiverkup, trr'ongmawto lor,
A to tsam sì tìsraw seykxel lamu.

Nì'i'a, tì'eylan to tìkawng lamu seykxel.
Fìsìlpey sì skawngä fìtìtxur a lamam meyp,
Fìmeylan a zamong kifkeyit 'awsiteng.

Fyape tsamun fì'u len,
Tìtätxaw tìloru krr a tsa lamu stum skola'a?
Fwa oeyk lu tìseykxel a tsawl nìhawng lu, txopu si oe.

nì'Ìnglìsì

Spoiler

With the only intention of ruining all beauteous things,
They crept upon the world of light.
Forcing a dreadful night
Into the heart and soul of all good beings.

So heartless and pitiless they were,
So convinced of their foul victory!
They widened a shadow of despair endlessly
Thinking their Black Age was coming ever nearer.

But there was a gleam that none of them could blow away,
An undying strength, more splendid than the dawn of day,
That proved stronger than weapons and cruelty.

In the end, it is friendship that triumphed over Evil's seizure.
This hope and courage of fools that seemed doomed to failure,
These two friends who together made the world free.

How could such a thing possibly occur,
The return of good as it was on the edge of failure?
It is, I fear, the cost of vanity.

[Alyara Arati]

Txantsan nìtxan!  Irayo seiyi ma oeyä 'eylan!

[Ftxavanga Txe′lan]

Wou! Fwa peng ngal fì'ut oeru teya si, ma tsmuke. Irayo nìtxan!

[Blue Elf]

Wou, tìralpeng atxantsan, seysonìltsan! *Hobbit* nì'Navi, sìltsana safpìl

a few notes about grammar:
- Not sure about tìfpxäkìm, "tì-" words are abstract, while door is concrete thing. Unfortunately I have no better proposal at this time...
- Zeyka'u should be transitive, so: Zeyka'u txonit akawng
- Fìsìlpey - should be tìsìlpey (hope as noun, not verb)
- Tìtätxaw tìloru krr a tsa lamu stum skola'a? is not correct. Tìtätxaw is noun, not a verb, so next word can't be in dative - genitive fits here. And skola'a is candidate for passive participle, what needs some rephrasing (no warranty of correctness):
 Tìtätxaw tìlorä krr a lamu tsa'u  askawna'a stum?
 Return of the beauty when it was almost destroyed?
Probably is better to delete krr entirely, so "when it" changes to "which" - sounds better for me.
Also, in some places I'd use different word order, but as it is "free" in Na'vi, I can't say that there are mistakes. No, it is good job (even despite I had to look some words in dictionary, but it is problem of my poor vocabulary).
Applause for you

[Tswusayona Tsamsiyu]

wow you really are a lord of rings fan.
those are really nice poems.

corrections:

sì sute a tsaye'a kifkeyit

Slä krr nìwotx a heyn oe ulte fpìl

Nì'aw tìkanhu skiva'änga lora ayfì'ut nìwotx,

this should be said: nì'aw tìkanhu a skiva'änga lora fra'ut nìwotx.
or like this: nì'aw tìkanhu tìska'ayä fra'uä alor.

Zeyka'u txonurit akawng

Fìtxan law fwa flivä!

there is no word for "sure, convinced" yet (there was a proposal btw) so I'll just fori at the beginning of this sentence.

Veykamirä ukit txopuyä luke tì'i'a
Fparmìl futa ayfoä Layona Krr zamarmunge.

Fìtìsìlpey sì ayskxawngä fìtìtxur a lamam meyp,

Fyape tsamun fì'u liven,

Tìtätxaw tìloru krr a tsa lamu stum skola'a?

should be: tìtätxaw tìlorä a stum tsat skola'a.

Fwa oeyk lu tìseykxel a tsawl nìhawng lu, txopu si oe.

ask anything if you don't understand.

[Puvomun]

Txolkìn sivunu fì'ur

[Ftxavanga Txe′lan]

Irayo nìtxan ma eylan, teri srung sì aylì'u atstunwi.

Txolkìn sivunu fì'ur

Mllte oe! Srane, *Lord of the Rings* yawne oer nìtxan lu!

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Fwa ke kem sami keyeyur apxay oeru teya si. Slä lu sìpawm oeru:

Slä krr nìwotx a heyn oe ulte fpìl

The original line being "But all the while I sit and think", I put nìwotx to express all the time and didn't put an a because I felt it wasn't necessary. Why have you corrected it like that? Would it work if I said fìkrr nìwotx?

Nì'aw tìkanhu skiva'änga lora ayfì'ut nìwotx,

this should be said: nì'aw tìkanhu a skiva'änga lora fra'ut nìwotx.
or like this: nì'aw tìkanhu tìska'ayä fra'uä alor.

Why a in the first sentence? I thought that <iv> in skiva'änga already expressed "the aim to destroy" and didn't think something else would be needed.

Zeyka'u txonurit akawng

I thought that za'u was intransitive and that intransitive verbs always take the dative instead of patientive.

Fwa oeyk lu tìseykxel a tsawl nìhawng lu, txopu si oe.

Isn't fwa part of a special sentence construction? I tried to say here "That the cause is a confidence that is too big, I fear".

[Sireayä mokri]

Talun(a) mi lu fìtxan pxaya ayut
a kawkrr ke tsole'a oel:
...
teri sute ta ftawnemkrr alìm*,
...
sì aymokriru tìfpxäkìmro.
...
Fìtxan* ayfo luke txe'lan sì luke tìtslam lamu,
...
Fparmìl futa ayfoeyä Layona Krr zamarmunge.

Tse, sunu oer

Txolkìn sivunu fì'ur

Kxawm fì'u sivunu Txolkìnur kefyak?

The original line being "But all the while I sit and think", I put nìwotx to express all the time and didn't put an a because I felt it wasn't necessary. Why have you corrected it like that? Would it work if I said fìkrr nìwotx?

Nìwotx is basically totally. So I don't feel like it would fit here. A is used with krr to say when.

Why a in the first sentence? I thought that <iv> in skiva'änga already expressed "the aim to destroy" and didn't think something else would be needed.

<iv> would work like that only in modal syntax, where aim has to be a verb, not a noun.

I thought that za'u was intransitive and that intransitive verbs always take the dative instead of patientive.

<eyk> turns it into transitive, thus patientive is used.

Isn't fwa part of a special sentence construction? I tried to say here "That the cause is a confidence that is too big, I fear".

Indeed your sentence is correct here.

[Tirea Aean]

Spoiler

Talun(a) mi lu fìtxan pxaya ayut
a kawkrr ke tsole'a oel:
...
teri sute ta ftawnemkrr alìm*,
...
sì aymokriru tìfpxäkìmro.
...
Fìtxan* ayfo luke txe'lan sì luke tìtslam lamu,
...
Fparmìl futa ayfoeyä Layona Krr zamarmunge.

Tse, sunu oer

Txolkìn sivunu fì'ur

Kxawm fì'u sivunu Txolkìnur kefyak?

The original line being "But all the while I sit and think", I put nìwotx to express all the time and didn't put an a because I felt it wasn't necessary. Why have you corrected it like that? Would it work if I said fìkrr nìwotx?

Nìwotx is basically totally. So I don't feel like it would fit here. A is used with krr to say when.

Why a in the first sentence? I thought that <iv> in skiva'änga already expressed "the aim to destroy" and didn't think something else would be needed.

<iv> would work like that only in modal syntax, where aim has to be a verb, not a noun.

I thought that za'u was intransitive and that intransitive verbs always take the dative instead of patientive.

<eyk> turns it into transitive, thus patientive is used.

Isn't fwa part of a special sentence construction? I tried to say here "That the cause is a confidence that is too big, I fear".

Indeed your sentence is correct here.

I have been thoroughly and precisely ninja'd.

EDIT: a question:

fwa [...] txopu si oe

isnt that the same as saying

oe txopu si fì'u ? is that correct?

I might have said furia.

//post justified.

[Tswusayona Tsamsiyu]

Isn't fwa part of a special sentence construction? I tried to say here "That the cause is a confidence that is too big, I fear".

Indeed your sentence is correct here.

why is that? oeyk lu tìseykxel a nìhawng tsawl slolu. fwa is simply not needed.

[Tirea Aean]

Isn't fwa part of a special sentence construction? I tried to say here "That the cause is a confidence that is too big, I fear".

Indeed your sentence is correct here.

why is that? oeyk lu tìseykxel a nìhawng tsawl slolu. fwa is simply not needed.

unless you're going for

furia [...] oe txopu si

EDIT: what about

fwa oeyk lu tìseykxel a nìhawng tsawl slolu, längam oer

[Sireayä mokri]

I think it's the continuation of fyape tsamun fì'u liven; fì'u a oeyk lu... Oe txopu si seems to be a different clause with implied tsari.

[Blue Elf]

Isn't fwa part of a special sentence construction? I tried to say here "That the cause is a confidence that is too big, I fear".

Indeed your sentence is correct here.

why is that? oeyk lu tìseykxel a nìhawng tsawl slolu. fwa is simply not needed.

In this sentence is fwa not needed, but in Ftxavanga Txe'lanä sentence it works like connector (which can't be simply removed). Simply rewrite it in reverse order:

Oe txopu si fwa oeyk lu tìseykxel a tsawl nìhawng lu. (I'm afraid that reason is....)
I don't see mistake here...

[Sireayä mokri]

I don't see mistake here...

Fwa and oe would both be subjects.

[Tirea Aean]

I don't see mistake here...

Fwa and oe would both be subjects.

yeah. this is the same reason why -l and -t exist. but you cant use them on txopu si.

[Ftxavanga Txe′lan]

Irayo ma Sireayä mokri, tslam frakeyeyit oeyä set! I only have one question. What should I use instead of fìtxan in this sentence?

Fìtxan* ayfo luke txe'lan sì luke tìtslam lamu,

Concerning the fwa construction, I took it from Na'vi in a Nutshell. It says:

Fwa sute atxan fìtxan fteria lì'fya leNa'vi oeru teya si.
(The fact) That so many people are studying the Na'vi language fills me with joy.

EDIT: what about

fwa oeyk lu tìseykxel a nìhawng tsawl slolu, längam oer

It does sound much better with längam, because the attitude is less negative. Sìltsana säfpìl!

Pamrel sami eyawra ur mì *documents* oeyä, slä ke omum txo sweylu yivem ut fìtsenge. ììì

[Tswusayona Tsamsiyu]

I don't see mistake here...

Fwa and oe would both be subjects.

yeah. this is the same reason why -l and -t exist. but you cant use them on txopu si.

here should be furia then.

What should I use instead of fìtxan in this sentence?

Fìtxan* ayfo luke txe'lan sì luke tìtslam lamu,

probably nìftxan because it's an adverb.

[Sireayä mokri]

So far the only confirmed usage of nìftxan is for comparisons. Nìtxan might work, I think.

[Tswusayona Tsamsiyu]

So far the only confirmed usage of nìftxan is for comparisons. Nìtxan might work, I think.

I know its usage, but since it's an adverb (basically nì+fìtxan)....
nìtxan is good but not enough in my opinion. it doesn't convey the wanted meaning.

[Sireayä mokri]

Well, fìtxan is an adverb as well, but still it can't be used "on its own".