Oeyä ikran

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Puvomun


Oe ke lu taronyu
Kawkrr ikran layu oeru

Kawkrr oel nayìn atxkxeti tawta
Oeyä mevenu layu mì kllte frakrr

Taluna syal ke lu oeru.

Slä oeyä tirea ke kin mesyal
Fpi tswayon mì saw, mì ayfìwopx

Ayvenu ke lu tirearu tuteoyä
Atxkxe ke lu, tìhusultstxem ke lu

Oeyä ikran... lu tirea oeri.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Alyara Arati

Sìltsan nìtxan ma Puvomun.  Sunu oeru fì'u nìngay. :)

Slä...

Quote from: Puvomun on April 01, 2012, 05:21:02 AM

Oe ke lu taronyu
Kawkrr ikran layu oeru

Kawkrr oel nayìn atxkxeti tawta
Oeyä mevenu layu mì hllte frakrr

Taluna syal ke lu oeru.

Slä oeyä tireal ke kin mesyalit
Fte tswivayon mì saw, mì ayfìwopx

Ayvenu ke lu tirearu tuteoyä
Atxkxe ke lu, tìhusultstxem ke lu

Oeyä ikran... lu tirea oeri.

Learn how to see.  Realize that everything connects to everything else.
~ Leonardo da Vinci

Puvomun

Quote from: Alyara Arati on April 01, 2012, 11:53:00 PM
Sìltsan nìtxan ma Puvomun.  Sunu oeru fì'u nìngay. :)

Slä...

Quote from: Puvomun on April 01, 2012, 05:21:02 AM

Oe ke lu taronyu
Kawkrr ikran layu oeru

Kawkrr oel nayìn atxkxeti tawta
Oeyä mevenu layu mì hllte frakrr

Taluna syal ke lu oeru.

Slä oeyä tireal ke kin mesyalit
Fte tswivayon mì saw, mì ayfìwopx

Ayvenu ke lu tirearu tuteoyä
Atxkxe ke lu, tìhusultstxem ke lu

Oeyä ikran... lu tirea oeri.


Irayo fpi the corrections. I keep telling my students about lenition and persist in missing it myself at times.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Blue Elf

Way alor, ma Puvomun! Nìngay fkol ke kin kea syalit fte tsivun tswivayon.

Tìsung:
QuoteOe ke lu taronyu
Kawkrr ikran ke layu oeru

Kawkrr oel ke nayìn atxkxeti tawta
Na'vi use multiple negation, so if you use negative word, you must also negate verb.
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Puvomun

Quote from: Blue Elf on April 02, 2012, 02:54:40 AM
Way alor, ma Puvomun! Nìngay fkol ke kin kea syalit fte tsivun tswivayon.

Tìsung:
QuoteOe ke lu taronyu
Kawkrr ikran ke layu oeru

Kawkrr oel ke nayìn atxkxeti tawta
Na'vi use multiple negation, so if you use negative word, you must also negate verb.

Ohhhh, that is how it works! Thank you.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Kamean

Pamrel alor ma Puvomun. :)
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


Seze Mune

Quote from: Puvomun on April 02, 2012, 01:44:39 AM
Quote from: Alyara Arati on April 01, 2012, 11:53:00 PM
Sìltsan nìtxan ma Puvomun.  Sunu oeru fì'u nìngay. :)

Slä...

Quote from: Puvomun on April 01, 2012, 05:21:02 AM

Oe ke lu taronyu
Kawkrr ikran layu oeru

Kawkrr oel nayìn atxkxeti tawta
Oeyä mevenu layu mì hllte frakrr

Taluna syal ke lu oeru.

Slä oeyä tireal ke kin mesyalit
Fte tswivayon mì saw, mì ayfìwopx

Ayvenu ke lu tirearu tuteoyä
Atxkxe ke lu, tìhusultstxem ke lu

Oeyä ikran... lu tirea oeri.


Irayo fpi the corrections. I keep telling my students about lenition and persist in missing it myself at times.

What is the difference between oeri and oeru?

Blue Elf

First one is topical of "oe", second one is dative of the same. Here must be used "oeri", if you rewrite it a little, you get:
Oeri tirea lu ikran oeyä => As for me, my ikran is spirit => My ikran is my spirit

Dative here doesn't give any sense
Oeyä ikran... lu tirea oeru. => My ikran... I have spirit.
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Seze Mune

Irayo, ma Blue Elf.  I must study this.  I don't really understand the topical and what it means and how it is used.

Puvomun

Quote from: Seze Mune on April 02, 2012, 01:12:30 PM
Irayo, ma Blue Elf.  I must study this.  I don't really understand the topical and what it means and how it is used.
Neither do I in entirety.
You can use the -ri / topical in places where something is an unalienable possession, like your hands (you own them, no one else does), or your idea.

If you learn more about it and find a way to explain it, I would be obliged. I'm only trying to figure this out since about a year. :D
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Plumps

nìfrakrr. pamrel asìltsan, ma 'eylan