Sute ke tswayon.

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Puvomun

Sute ke tswayon.

Tutan a'ewan terìran mì na'ringru. Poan ke lu tsamsiyu, poanil fwew ututi mauti.
Tìran lu ngäzik: fìtsenge klltxe lew si ayvul sì lahea ayu.

Ayoengä 'ewana tutan li zìmup a'aw hrr. Ulte set poan zup nìmun.

"Peu?" Peyä key lu lok 'ewll astxong. Poanil tsame'a fi'uti kawkrr. Pìwopxtsyìp za'u ta 'ewll ulte mì poanri ontu.

"Wiya! Tsa'u fkxake!" 'ewana tutan pllxte. Poanru lu heyn hìkrr. Tì'efu lu mì peyä re'o. Na'ringil leykatem opinit. Ayutral set lu ean. Klltxe lu neyn! Ulte poan nefä kä...

Tutan lìng. Ayutral äo lu, fratseng ayutral lu. Nìteng poanil tse'a ayikranit. Slä... fo heyn mì taw!

"Fo lu kye'ung," ayoengä tutan plltxe. "Ayikran zene tswivayon. Slä fo ke rikx!"

Poanil tse'a tsawketi.

Tsawke atun lrrtok si. "Kelkuro kä, ma hì'ia 'eylan."

Srane. Tsawke eyawr lu. Hawngkrr lu.

"Kelkuro kerä, ma tsawke, irayo lu ngaru."

Klltxe za'u nìwin. Poan zup. "Wiya... nìmun..."

Tutan a'ewan nìn taw. Poan 'ampi re'oru. Tìsraw si. Tutan tse'a 'ewll ahì'i. "Lekye'ung. Fì'u lu 'ewll akxawng!"

Poanil lìyawk fì'ewll. Frapo Na'viyä zene ivomum. Fo ke zene fivahew si fì'ewllit. Sute ke tswayon. Ayikran ke lìng. Ulte tsawke ke lu tun.

Tutanil tse'a tsawket. Set tsawke niltsan lu. Ke lu tun.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Sireayä mokri

Quote from: Puvomun on May 10, 2011, 11:54:46 AM
Tutan a'ewan terìran mì na'ringru. Poan ke lu tsamsiyu, poanil fwew ututi mauti.
Fìkem a tìran lu ngäzik: fìtsenge klltxeru lew si ayvul sì lahea ayu.

Ayoengeyä 'ewana tutan li zìmup a'awa alo hrr. Ulte set poan zup nìmun.

"Peu?" Peyä key lu lok 'ewll astxong. Poanìl ke tsame'a fi'uti kawkrr. Pìwopxtsyìp za'u ta ftu 'ewll ulte poanri ontune.

"Wiya! Tsa'u fkxake!" 'ewana tutan plltxe. Poanru lu heyn hìkrr. Tì'efu lu mì feyä re'o. Na'ringìl leykatem opinit. Ayutral set lu ean. Klltxe lu neyn! Ulte poan nefä kä...

Tutan lìng. Ayutral äo lu, fratseng ayutral lu. Nìteng Kop poanìl tse'a ayikranit. Slä... fo heyn mì saw!

"Fo lu lekye'ung," ayoengeyä tutan plltxe. "Ayikran zene tswivayon. Slä fo ke rikx!"

Poanìl tse'a tsawketi.

Tsawke atun lrrtok si. "Kelkurone kä, ma hì'ia 'eylan."

Srane. Tsawkeru yawr lu. Hawngkrr lu.

"Kelkurone kerä, ma tsawke, irayo lu ngaru."

Klltxe za'u nìwin. Poan zup. "Wiya... nìmun..."

Tutanìl a'ewan nìn tawti. Poanìl 'ampi re'orut. Tìsraw si. Tutanìl tse'a 'ewllit ahì'i. "Lekye'ung. Fì'u lu 'ewll akxawng!"

Poanìl lìyawk fì'ewllit. Frapo Na'viyä* zene ivomum. Fo ke zene fivahew si 'ivefu fahewit fì'ewllitä.* Sute ke tswayon. Ayikran ke lìng. Ulte tsawke ke lu tun.

Tutanìl tse'a tsawket. Set tsawke niltsan lefpom lu. Ke lu tun.

Tse, pamrel soli nga nìltsan nìngay. Lu keyey, slä fìfya fko nume ;)

Nìsung: ke lu tìkin a sar lì'ut alu poan fralo. Po tsivun tivam nìteng (ulte keng lu sìltsan nì'ul).
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Kamean

Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


Puvomun

#3
Quote from: Sireayä mokri on May 10, 2011, 01:09:48 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on May 10, 2011, 11:54:46 AM
Tutan a'ewan terìran mì na'ringru. Poan ke lu tsamsiyu, poanil fwew ututi mauti.
Fìkem a tìran lu ngäzik: fìtsenge klltxeru lew si ayvul sì lahea ayu.

Ayoengeyä 'ewana tutan li zìmup a'awa alo hrr. Ulte set poan zup nìmun.

"Peu?" Peyä key lu lok 'ewll astxong. Poanìl ke tsame'a fi'uti kawkrr. Pìwopxtsyìp za'u ta ftu 'ewll ulte poanri ontune.

"Wiya! Tsa'u fkxake!" 'ewana tutan plltxe. Poanru lu heyn hìkrr. Tì'efu lu mì feyä re'o. Na'ringìl leykatem opinit. Ayutral set lu ean. Klltxe lu neyn! Ulte poan nefä kä...

Tutan lìng. Ayutral äo lu, fratseng ayutral lu. Nìteng Kop poanìl tse'a ayikranit. Slä... fo heyn mì saw!

"Fo lu lekye'ung," ayoengeyä tutan plltxe. "Ayikran zene tswivayon. Slä fo ke rikx!"

Poanìl tse'a tsawketi.

Tsawke atun lrrtok si. "Kelkurone kä, ma hì'ia 'eylan."

Srane. Tsawkeru yawr lu. Hawngkrr lu.

"Kelkurone kerä, ma tsawke, irayo lu ngaru."

Klltxe za'u nìwin. Poan zup. "Wiya... nìmun..."

Tutanìl a'ewan nìn tawti. Poanìl 'ampi re'orut. Tìsraw si. Tutanìl tse'a 'ewllit ahì'i. "Lekye'ung. Fì'u lu 'ewll akxawng!"

Poanìl lìyawk fì'ewllit. Frapo Na'viyä* zene ivomum. Fo ke zene fivahew si 'ivefu fahewit fì'ewllitä.* Sute ke tswayon. Ayikran ke lìng. Ulte tsawke ke lu tun.

Tutanìl tse'a tsawket. Set tsawke niltsan lefpom lu. Ke lu tun.

Tse, pamrel soli nga nìltsan nìngay. Lu keyey, slä fìfya fko nume ;)

Nìsung: ke lu tìkin a sar lì'ut alu poan fralo. Po tsivun tivam nìteng (ulte keng lu sìltsan nì'ul).

WOU! Less than half is wrong! (I think.) Thank you for all the extensive corrections.

Here are the few things you do not understand: Poan ke lu tsamsiyu, poanil fwew ututi mauti.:  He is no warrior, he looks for push fruit. (I admit, push fruit comes from the ASG so it might be better not to use that.) (edit: and ututi is probably a typo. uti should be enough.)

Poanru lu heyn hìkrr. He has to sit for a while. Which probably is wrong as heyn is used in combination with 'lu'.

Ulte "Lu keyey" ... lu kxeyey... ;)

I shall now spend a while worrying about -re, -ne, -ro and all other little things I still don't know, get and understand well. (NOT! ;))

And hooray for the spoiler tag. Beneath this is what I intended to say, in English. For the curious among us.
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Sireayä mokri

Quote from: Puvomun on May 10, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
Here are the few things you do not understand: Poan ke lu tsamsiyu, poanil fwew ututi mauti.:  He is no warrior, he looks for push fruit. (I admit, push fruit comes from the ASG so it might be better not to use that.) (edit: and ututi is probably a typo. uti should be enough.)

I see now. Well, anyway I wouldn't use it ;)

Quote from: Puvomun on May 10, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
Poanru lu heyn hìkrr. He has to sit for a while. Which probably is wrong as heyn is used in combination with 'lu'.

It should be zene po hiveyn hìkrro.

Quote from: Puvomun on May 10, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
Ulte "Lu keyey" ... lu kxeyey... ;)

Keyey is short plural form.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Puvomun

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on May 10, 2011, 01:42:41 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on May 10, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
Poanru lu heyn hìkrr. He has to sit for a while. Which probably is wrong as heyn is used in combination with 'lu'.

It should be zene po hiveyn hìkrro.
Irayo for this!

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on May 10, 2011, 01:42:41 PM
Quote from: Puvomun on May 10, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
Ulte "Lu keyey" ... lu kxeyey... ;)

Keyey is short plural form.
Damn, that always gets me... Lenition, I do not like thee!
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Blue Elf

Nice, ma Puvomun, aren't you from Netherland?  :) :) :)
Just two notes: you often write i instead ì (not big problem as it is very common mistake) and correct name of the fruit from the second sentence is "utu mauti" (into Czech it translates as Pandora's banana)
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Alyara Arati

#7
QuoteWOU! Less than half is wrong! (I think.)

Zerok oel tsatì'efuti nìltsan!  Teya keyeyä lolu oeyä vurtsyìp a'awve!  Ha, seysonìltsan, ma Puvomun, ulte seykxel sì nitram.
Learn how to see.  Realize that everything connects to everything else.
~ Leonardo da Vinci

Kamean

Ma Puvomum, i and ì are quite different from each other.
Maybe I don't сonfuse it, because in Russian are sound which is very close to ì.
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


Puvomun

Quote from: Blue Elf on May 10, 2011, 03:52:59 PM
Nice, ma Puvomun, aren't you from Netherland?  :) :) :)
Yes, I am. :)

Quote from: Blue Elf on May 10, 2011, 03:52:59 PM
Just two notes: you often write i instead ì (not big problem as it is very common mistake) and correct name of the fruit from the second sentence is "utu mauti" (into Czech it translates as Pandora's banana)
The ì and i... I know... I keep tryìng, and I keep doìng ìt wròng...
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Puvomun

Quote from: Kamean on May 10, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
Ma Puvomum, i and ì are quite different from each other.
Maybe I don't сonfuse it, because in Russian are sound which is very close to ì.
I know they are different, in Dutch the ì sound happens a lot also. Sometimes I think I remember the proper one and do not check against the dictionary...
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Blue Elf

Quote from: Alyara Arati on May 10, 2011, 04:31:44 PM
QuoteWOU! Less than half is wrong! (I think.)

Zerok oel tsatì'efuti nìltsan!  Teya keyeyä lolu oeyä vurtsyìp a'awve!  Ha, sesonìltsan, ma Puvomun, ulte seykxel sì nitram.
seysonìltsan, ma Alyara  :)
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Puvomun

Quote from: Alyara Arati on May 10, 2011, 04:31:44 PM
QuoteWOU! Less than half is wrong! (I think.)

Zerok oel tsatì'efuti nìltsan!  Teya keyeyä lolu oeyä vurtsyìp a'awve!  Ha, seysonìltsan, ma Puvomun, ulte seykxel sì nitram.

Irayo, ma Alyara Arati.

Oel fmìyi nìltsan nì'ul hayalo!
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Blue Elf

Quote from: Puvomun on May 11, 2011, 02:51:32 AM
Oel fmìyi nìltsan nì'ul hayalo!
Oe fmìyi livu sìltsan nì'ul hayalo
I'll (soon?) try to be good(adj., not adv.) more next time
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Puvomun

Quote from: Blue Elf on May 11, 2011, 03:20:56 AM
Quote from: Puvomun on May 11, 2011, 02:51:32 AM
Oel fmìyi nìltsan nì'ul hayalo!
Oe fmìyi livu sìltsan nì'ul hayalo
I'll (soon?) try to be good(adj., not adv.) more next time

I could not decide if sìltsan or nìltsan was the word to use. Thank you.
I just wanted to say "I'll try". Looks like today is one of those days that oeyä eltu Na'viyä lu kawng...
Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Blue Elf

Quote from: Puvomun on May 11, 2011, 03:49:02 AM
I just wanted to say "I'll try". Looks like today is one of those days that oeyä eltu Na'viyä lu kawng...
HRH don't worry, I have these days every time I try to write anything nìNa'vi here :) Nearly impossible to write something completely correctly :(
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Tanri

Ma Puvomun, fì'u lu txantsana vur a lu eltur tìtxen si nìngay.  :)

Lu oeru 'awa tìpawm ngaru:
Faylì'uri alu san Fo ke zene fivahew si fì'ewllit sìk, srake nga namew sivar kemlì'uti san ke zene sìk tup san zene ke?
Tätxawyu akì'ong.

Sireayä mokri

Quote from: Puvomun on May 11, 2011, 02:51:32 AM
Oel fmìyi nìltsan nì'ul hayalo!

I believe it's correct, apart from agentive case. If you try to say I will try to do better next time, then you can also add tsakem sivi after fmi, but it's not necessary, since it will be implied anyway.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Puvomun

Quote from: Tanri on May 11, 2011, 08:42:01 AM
Ma Puvomun, fì'u lu txantsana vur a lu eltur tìtxen si nìngay.  :)

Lu oeru 'awa tìpawm ngaru:
Faylì'uri alu san Fo ke zene fivahew si fì'ewllit sìk, srake nga namew sivar kemlì'uti san ke zene sìk tup san zene ke?

Oel kin puk aylì'fyayä set... (nìmun ;))
I could not find "namew" anywhere, nor anything that looks remotely like it, so I have to guess here. I assume you want to know why I used "ke zene" instead of "zene ke". And the answer is: I don't have a reason. Free word order and all that is my only defense...

Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

Ngopyu ayvurä.

Sireayä mokri

Ke zene and zene ke have a difference in meaning. Ke zene means don't have to (not necessary); zene ke is used for must not (prohibited).

  Ke zene nga hivum.
  You don't have to leave (you can stay).

  Nga zene ke hivum.
  You must not leave (you must stay).

Quote from: Puvomun on May 11, 2011, 10:55:18 AM
I could not find "namew" anywhere, nor anything that looks remotely like it

It's n<am>ewwanted.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.