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Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« on: April 18, 2012, 12:14:10 pm »
Tse’a awnga ko ftxey fìvur a oe ralpoleng tuteor smayatson fuke… :P

          Vurìri teri Pxeya Tsmukan, ayngaru prrte’ lìyevu.

Nìfrakrr, txo ayngal keyeyt rivun, peng oer rutxe :)

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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 04:47:25 pm »
Vur alor, ma Plumps. Oeri tìusinan vurä lu ngäzìk nì'it, slä fpìl futa flolä oe nì'i'a  :)

Aysäpltxevio:
Larmu krr a pxeya tsmukan sermop... => sarmop fu serop
Lu tsamesmukanur ngian tìomum teri aySeo Tsulfäyä, ha, pxefol... => fo lu pxesmukan, kefyak?
Nìlun, fa Rìnvultsyìp ke tsun po snivaytx fpeiot asusung. Tengkrr txerìng wätut atspawnang mì hllte... => srake tsun ralpiveng? I understand it as:
Apparently, with Wooden little branch he can't loose ?? challenge.
While leaving opponent being killed on the ground.... IMHO kerusey would work better... ??
poe tolätxaw ne kifkey ayruseyä,... => Wou! oe tslam (kifkey suteyä arusey), slä srake tsun fko sivar tsasäplltxeti??

Tse, sìltsana tìkangkem!
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 05:01:06 pm »
Ngeyä aysäplltxeri oe ngaru seiyi irayo nìtxan, ma Blue Elf.

Sran, lu ngäzìk, fì’ul vingkap oeti nìteng tengkrr erinan tsat.


Larmu krr a pxeya tsmukan sermop... => sarmop fu serop
Lu tsamesmukanur ngian tìomum teri aySeo Tsulfäyä, ha, pxefol... => fo lu pxesmukan, kefyak?
Mesa’uri ngaru tìyawr

Nìlun, fa Rìnvultsyìp ke tsun po snivaytx fpeiot asusung. Tengkrr txerìng wätut atspawnang mì hllte... => srake tsun ralpiveng? I understand it as:
Apparently, with Wooden little branch he can't loose ?? challenge.
While leaving opponent being killed on the ground.... IMHO kerusey would work better... ??
Aaaah, tsa-hey … frakrr oe tìkxey si sung sì nong :P ke omum teyngta pelun…
Livu san fpeiot anusong sìk … leykayatem oel tsat pxiye’rìn
Muvea ’it slu nì’Ìnglìsì »While leaving the killed opponent on the ground…«


poe tolätxaw ne kifkey ayruseyä,... => Wou! oe tslam (kifkey suteyä arusey), slä srake tsun fko sivar tsasäplltxeti??
Sìlpey oe fìfya … taluna awnga tsun sivar lì’ut alu rusey sko stxolì’u…
Ke tsunslatsu srak ???

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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 05:21:52 pm »
Nìlun, fa Rìnvultsyìp ke tsun po snivaytx fpeiot asusung. Tengkrr txerìng wätut atspawnang mì hllte... => srake tsun ralpiveng? I understand it as:
Apparently, with Wooden little branch he can't loose ?? challenge.
While leaving opponent being killed on the ground.... IMHO kerusey would work better... ??
Aaaah, tsa-hey … frakrr oe tìkxey si sung sì nong :P ke omum teyngta pelun…
Livu san fpeiot anusong sìk … leykayatem oel tsat pxiye’rìn
Muvea ’it slu nì’Ìnglìsì »While leaving the killed opponent on the ground…«

Well, "killed" is adjective (or behaves this way), so we need something like *letspang
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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 05:35:20 pm »
Muvea ’it slu nì’Ìnglìsì »While leaving the killed opponent on the ground…«
Well, "killed" is adjective (or behaves this way), so we need something like *letspang
Yeah, but that is what ‹awn› does ;) transforming a verb into a past participle ;)

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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 03:43:04 am »
Muvea ’it slu nì’Ìnglìsì »While leaving the killed opponent on the ground…«
Well, "killed" is adjective (or behaves this way), so we need something like *letspang
Yeah, but that is what ‹awn› does ;) transforming a verb into a past participle ;)
sran, but I'm not sure that <awn> mean completed action...
Oe tawnarona tute lu => I am a person being hunted (which others hunt, not which others already hunted)
Oe tspawnanga tute lu => I am a person being killed (which others kill, not which others already killed) well, this example is lame at least in one leg.
Probably best solution is
Tengkrr txerìng wätut a tspolang (pot) ... Here is action finished for sure :)

Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 04:13:27 am »
Muvea ’it slu nì’Ìnglìsì »While leaving the killed opponent on the ground…«
Well, "killed" is adjective (or behaves this way), so we need something like *letspang
Yeah, but that is what ‹awn› does ;) transforming a verb into a past participle ;)
sran, but I'm not sure that <awn> mean completed action...
Oe tawnarona tute lu => I am a person being hunted (which others hunt, not which others already hunted)
Oe tspawnanga tute lu => I am a person being killed (which others kill, not which others already killed) well, this example is lame at least in one leg.
Probably best solution is
Tengkrr txerìng wätut a tspolang (pot) ... Here is action finished for sure :)

Ah, srane … set tslolam! :)
Hm, what about one of the latest Na’viteri headlines? Trr asawnung … that for me is “added day” (~ additional day) as a completed action and not “day being added”
I don’t want to win the case here ;) I just want to explain my way of reasoning :)
I appreciate your input tremendously! It’s good to discuss these things otherwise we would not know how to use certain aspects of the language.

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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 05:35:17 am »
Discussion is always good, now I understand your view :) Maybe good question for Paul - if more ways of understanding is possible, the Highest Authority should judge (or approve both ;D)
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 10:39:08 am »
I am paraphrasing JRR Tolkein.
Askthe Elves and they will answer both NO and YES.
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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2012, 10:46:10 am »
Pamrel asìltsan. :)
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2012, 03:52:46 pm »
Tewti. :)  Ke fpìl oel futa pilve'un oel futa ralpiveng oel vurit ta Harry Potter, slä seysonìltsan, ma Plumps! :D
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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2012, 05:03:23 pm »
Tewti. :)  Ke fpìl oel futa pilve'un oel futa ralpiveng oel vurit ta Harry Potter, slä seysonìltsan, ma Plumps! :D
Tewti, ma Alyara … ngaru tìyawr. Nga yora’ sì kìyanom *kukit :P

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Re: Vur teri Pxeya Tsmukan
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2012, 03:39:08 pm »
Fìvur leiu txantsana tìkangkem nìngay, ma Plumps.
Ke smon oer letsima vur a ta "Harry Potter", slä ngal poleng fìvurit nìksman.

Teri lì’u alu "atspawnang", fko zene ke tswiva’ futa fìlì’u lu lì’u kìte’e’uyä - tafral ke fkeytok kea krr a tsat fìlì’u tsun sliva’tsu. Tì’efumì oeyä, kea lì’u a fkol ngop fa <us> fu <awn>, ke tsun pivlltxe teri ftawnemkrr, zusawkrr fu teri kem a seri fko pxiset.

Oe tawnarona tute lu => I am a person being hunted (which others hunt, not which others already hunted)
Oe tspawnanga tute lu => I am a person being killed (which others kill, not which others already killed) well, this example is lame at least in one leg.
Probably best solution is
Tengkrr txerìng wätut a tspolang (pot) ... Here is action finished for sure :)
Mì faysìkenong, li’u a peng ayoer teri krr, lu kemlì’u alu "lu" nì’aw:
Oe tawnarona tute leru => I am a person being hunted (currently)
Oe tawnarona tute lamu => I was a hunted person (in the past)
Oe tawnarona tute lìyängu => I am person about to be hunted (in the future, obviously not happy about this) ;D
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